You seem to make very general statements and judgements about a number of things in the past like this and your thread about the crusades. First of all, you can’t look back and make a judgments about anyone on if they are or are not in heaven and who is and isn’t should always be left in God’s hands and His final judgements. It isn’t up to us. Likewise, you make very vague and somewhat inaccurate comments about past history and seem to want to hold people in the past to some preconceived ideas about war and just war and are not willing to look at what happen or what people did or didn’t do and place them in their era or time. You shouldn’t look back in history and make assessments using today’s ideas, standards etc. You should also study history using reliable Catholic sources and not through the lens of political correctness. Just because Charlemagne waged war doesn’t make him evil. He likewise united or tried to parts of Europe. He likewise lead in reform in education, wanting people to be able to read. You have made a number of comments about war on this and other threads. I would study the concept of just war propose by St. Thomas Aquinas and others before trying to judge the past.
I am asking this questions because i don’t know, and i wish to know. I couldn’t understand how some people like Constanine could be saints if they waged wars, conquered,… I know what criterias are for a just war but i don’t think neither Constantine nor Charlemagne fullfiled that criterias. We all know what those criterias were. Charlemagne and Constantine conquered for bigger political control. Why else would Charlemagne with no just reason attack the saxons? I read history but just find some doubt wheter these people could really be ‘good’?
Those acts do not exclude one from a saintly life.
For example, St. Joan of Arc waged war, as did St. Louis of France.
Moses himself conquered Caanan. God Himself commanded such conquest at times, so I would be hesitant of accusing God of committing evil
And we know that Moses is a Saint, as he appeared in Glory during the Transfiguration.
So I believe that your premise is in error.
I know im in error, i know this because the Church is infallible. The thing is that i don’t understand how the crusades(all of them including against pagans, muslims,…), wars of Charlemagne, wars of Constanine,… were just war if they don’t fulfill the criteria for just war in the cahtecism. I want to reason all these, im not arguing agaisnt the Church, i just want to reasonably explain how is all this just.