Are we living the last days? Before Jesus returns?

Our Lord in the Gospel spoke of His second coming. He indicated that various signs would mark the event. Mankind would suffer from famine, pestilence and natural disasters.
{Has this happenes yet??}
False prophets who claim to be the Messiah will deceive and mislead people.
{And this?}
Nations will wage war against each other.
{This is already happening! :cold_sweat:}
The Church will endure persecution. Worse yet, the faith of many will grow cold and they will abandon the faith, even betraying and hating one another. (Confer Mt. 24:4-14; Lk 17:22-37)
{This scared me because the church is constantly suffering persecution and hatred towards her! Many in my country alone have left the church or are only Catholic by name only. Many Catholics now sadly are in support of SSM, abortion, contraception…the SSM debate alone has causes chaoes among Catholics who do and don’t support it}.
St. Paul describes a “mass apostasy” before the Second Coming,
{What is a mass apostasy?}
which will be led by the “son of perdition,” the “Man of Lawlessness,” the “adversary who exalts himself above every so-called god proposed for worship.” This “lawless one” is part of the work of Satan, and with power, signs, wonders and seductions will bring to ruin those who have turned from the truth. However, “the Lord Jesus will destroy him with the breath of His mouth and annihilate him by manifesting His own presence.” (Cf. 2 Thes 2:3-12) The Catechism affirms, “God’s triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the last judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world” (No. 667). Our Lord will come suddenly. “The Son of Man in His day will be like the lightening that flashes from one end of the sky to the other” (Lk 17:24). St. Peter predicts, “The day of the Lord will come like a thief and on that day the heavens will vanish with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire and the earth and all its deeds will be made manifest” (2 Pt 3:10).

Death will be no more. The dead shall rise and those souls who have died will be united again to their bodies. All will have a glorious, transformed, spiritualized body as St. Paul said, “He will give a new form to this lowly body of ours and remake it according to the pattern of His glorified body…” (Phil 3:21).

At this time, the final, or general judgment will occur. Jesus said, “Those who have done right shall rise to life; the evildoers shall rise to be damned” (Jn 5:29). Our Lord described this judgment as follows: “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, escorted by all the angels of heaven, He will sit upon His royal throne and all the nations will be assembled before Him. Then He will separate them into two groups, as a shepherd separated sheep from goats” (Mt 25:31-32).

Here each person will have to account for his conduct and the deepest secrets of his soul will come to light. How well each person has responded to the prompting of God’s grace will be made clear. Our attitude and actions toward our neighbor will reflect how well we have loved our Lord. “As often as you did it for one of My least brothers, you did it for Me” (Mt 25:41).

Our Lord will judge us accordingly. For those who have died and already have faced the particular judgment, their judgment will stand. Those living at the time of the Second Coming will receive judgment. Those who have rejected the Lord in this life, who have sinned mortally, who have no remorse for sin and do not seek forgiveness, will have condemned themselves to hell for all eternity. "By rejecting grace in this life, one already judges oneself, receives according to one’s works and can even condemn oneself for all eternity by rejecting the Spirit of love (Catechism, No. 678). The souls of the righteous will enter heavenly glory and enjoy the beatific vision and those who need purification will undergo it.

We do not know when the Second Coming will occur. Jesus said, “As to the exact day or hour, no one knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor even the Son, but only the Father. Be constantly on the watch! Stay awake! You do not know when the appointed time will come” (Mk 13:32-33).

Our Lord in the Gospel spoke of His second coming. He indicated that various signs would mark the event. Mankind would suffer from famine, pestilence and natural disasters.
{Has this happenes yet??}
False prophets who claim to be the Messiah will deceive and mislead people.
{And this?}
Nations will wage war against each other.
{This is already happening! :cold_sweat:}
The Church will endure persecution. Worse yet, the faith of many will grow cold and they will abandon the faith, even betraying and hating one another. (Confer Mt. 24:4-14; Lk 17:22-37)
{This scared me because the church is constantly suffering persecution and hatred towards her! Many in my country alone have left the church or are only Catholic by name only. Many Catholics now sadly are in support of SSM, abortion, contraception…the SSM debate alone has causes chaoes among Catholics who do and don’t support it}.
St. Paul describes a “mass apostasy” before the Second Coming,
{What is a mass apostasy?}
which will be led by the “son of perdition,” the “Man of Lawlessness,” the “adversary who exalts himself above every so-called god proposed for worship.” This “lawless one” is part of the work of Satan, and with power, signs, wonders and seductions will bring to ruin those who have turned from the truth. However, “the Lord Jesus will destroy him with the breath of His mouth and annihilate him by manifesting His own presence.” (Cf. 2 Thes 2:3-12) The Catechism affirms, “God’s triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the last judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world” (No. 667). Our Lord will come suddenly. “The Son of Man in His day will be like the lightening that flashes from one end of the sky to the other” (Lk 17:24). St. Peter predicts, “The day of the Lord will come like a thief and on that day the heavens will vanish with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire and the earth and all its deeds will be made manifest” (2 Pt 3:10).

Death will be no more. The dead shall rise and those souls who have died will be united again to their bodies. All will have a glorious, transformed, spiritualized body as St. Paul said, “He will give a new form to this lowly body of ours and remake it according to the pattern of His glorified body…” (Phil 3:21).

At this time, the final, or general judgment will occur. Jesus said, “Those who have done right shall rise to life; the evildoers shall rise to be damned” (Jn 5:29). Our Lord described this judgment as follows: “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, escorted by all the angels of heaven, He will sit upon His royal throne and all the nations will be assembled before Him. Then He will separate them into two groups, as a shepherd separated sheep from goats” (Mt 25:31-32).

Here each person will have to account for his conduct and the deepest secrets of his soul will come to light. How well each person has responded to the prompting of God’s grace will be made clear. Our attitude and actions toward our neighbor will reflect how well we have loved our Lord. “As often as you did it for one of My least brothers, you did it for Me” (Mt 25:41).

Our Lord will judge us accordingly. For those who have died and already have faced the particular judgment, their judgment will stand. Those living at the time of the Second Coming will receive judgment. Those who have rejected the Lord in this life, who have sinned mortally, who have no remorse for sin and do not seek forgiveness, will have condemned themselves to hell for all eternity. "By rejecting grace in this life, one already judges oneself, receives according to one’s works and can even condemn oneself for all eternity by rejecting the Spirit of love (Catechism, No. 678). The souls of the righteous will enter heavenly glory and enjoy the beatific vision and those who need purification will undergo it.

We do not know when the Second Coming will occur. Jesus said, “As to the exact day or hour, no one knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor even the Son, but only the Father. Be constantly on the watch! Stay awake! You do not know when the appointed time will come” (Mk 13:32-33).

I think, overall, this is how we must sum the entirety of prophecy up. Is it all fulfilled, less the second coming and the resurrection of the dead? We don’t know, really. We have Jesus Christ and this is what is important.

As a pastor had said, Christians may wait seven years or seven thousand years, but we await the coming of Jesus.

Our Lord in the Gospel spoke of His second coming. He indicated that various signs would mark the event. Mankind would suffer from famine, pestilence and natural disasters.
{Has this happenes yet??}
False prophets who claim to be the Messiah will deceive and mislead people.
{And this?}
Nations will wage war against each other.
{This is already happening! :cold_sweat:}
The Church will endure persecution. Worse yet, the faith of many will grow cold and they will abandon the faith, even betraying and hating one another. (Confer Mt. 24:4-14; Lk 17:22-37)
{This scared me because the church is constantly suffering persecution and hatred towards her! Many in my country alone have left the church or are only Catholic by name only. Many Catholics now sadly are in support of SSM, abortion, contraception…the SSM debate alone has causes chaoes among Catholics who do and don’t support it}.
St. Paul describes a “mass apostasy” before the Second Coming,
{What is a mass apostasy?}
which will be led by the “son of perdition,” the “Man of Lawlessness,” the “adversary who exalts himself above every so-called god proposed for worship.” This “lawless one” is part of the work of Satan, and with power, signs, wonders and seductions will bring to ruin those who have turned from the truth. However, “the Lord Jesus will destroy him with the breath of His mouth and annihilate him by manifesting His own presence.” (Cf. 2 Thes 2:3-12) The Catechism affirms, “God’s triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the last judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world” (No. 667). Our Lord will come suddenly. “The Son of Man in His day will be like the lightening that flashes from one end of the sky to the other” (Lk 17:24). St. Peter predicts, “The day of the Lord will come like a thief and on that day the heavens will vanish with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire and the earth and all its deeds will be made manifest” (2 Pt 3:10).

Death will be no more. The dead shall rise and those souls who have died will be united again to their bodies. All will have a glorious, transformed, spiritualized body as St. Paul said, “He will give a new form to this lowly body of ours and remake it according to the pattern of His glorified body…” (Phil 3:21).

At this time, the final, or general judgment will occur. Jesus said, “Those who have done right shall rise to life; the evildoers shall rise to be damned” (Jn 5:29). Our Lord described this judgment as follows: “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, escorted by all the angels of heaven, He will sit upon His royal throne and all the nations will be assembled before Him. Then He will separate them into two groups, as a shepherd separated sheep from goats” (Mt 25:31-32).

Here each person will have to account for his conduct and the deepest secrets of his soul will come to light. How well each person has responded to the prompting of God’s grace will be made clear. Our attitude and actions toward our neighbor will reflect how well we have loved our Lord. “As often as you did it for one of My least brothers, you did it for Me” (Mt 25:41).

Our Lord will judge us accordingly. For those who have died and already have faced the particular judgment, their judgment will stand. Those living at the time of the Second Coming will receive judgment. Those who have rejected the Lord in this life, who have sinned mortally, who have no remorse for sin and do not seek forgiveness, will have condemned themselves to hell for all eternity. "By rejecting grace in this life, one already judges oneself, receives according to one’s works and can even condemn oneself for all eternity by rejecting the Spirit of love (Catechism, No. 678). The souls of the righteous will enter heavenly glory and enjoy the beatific vision and those who need purification will undergo it.

We do not know when the Second Coming will occur. Jesus said, “As to the exact day or hour, no one knows it, neither the angels in heaven nor even the Son, but only the Father. Be constantly on the watch! Stay awake! You do not know when the appointed time will come” (Mk 13:32-33).

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The answer to the OP is no. Pope Benedict addressed this twice during his Papacy. But yes, we must remain alert.

Ed

We are closer to it than any generation which has ever lived. Knowing this, we should believe and behave accordingly.

If only we were!

However, given that 99 generations have longed to see Him without doing so, it’s hard for me to be too hopeful.

ICXC NIKA.

It all depends if the circumstances warrant the return of the Lord. There has probably been many times in the past that had warrant just a return but because the Lord would intervene in some way usually by apparition as does His mother the Church returned back to the Gospel. God does supply us with saints who would help the Church to know her mission so as to avert the Second Coming. The Second Coming is not a predetermined date. It is a conditional date meaning certain conditions must be in place to make God decide to return His Son. One of those conditions must come from the lackluster attempt of the Church to correct and discipline the world. I do not see this as a present problem. The problems however in the Western democracies do warrant a change of the Church to masterfully discipline herself in order to discipline and correct this Western rejection of God. The laity of the Western churches especially the Catholic Church and the Eastern Churches have this responsibility to turn the tide of the West back to God. We are witnessing the emergence of this sleeping force to be the evangelist tool that God needs to wake up the West. It is growing painfully because the Laity need to be taught the faith in ways the people need to relate to. This can be time consuming but it is growing! I believe the Lord Jesus knows the Church needs to step up her own desire to witness for Him. As long as the Church is able to do what she is called into the Second Coming does not need to come. It is up to the Church to decide this. I have a notion that the Lord Jesus knows the Second Coming because He does know the implications that are there to bring it about. Jesus however will never disclose it. If the Second Coming ever comes as scripture testifies to it, it will come through the lack of discipline of the Church meaning it will be the failure of the Church that will cause this. I sense the Lord Jesus will never let it go so far so that He will not come at the very worse time but prior to it. Why come when it is the worse? He is the Savior and will try to save as much as possible during those drastic times.

To the OP: I wonder if there has ever been a time when famine, natural disasters, false prophets and war were absent. Secondly: to equate dislike of the Church and the legalisation of same sex marriage and abortion with persecution seems a bit exaggerated. The murder of Frans van der Lugt, a Jesuit priest living near Homs in Syria, by extremists from Al-Nusra is persecution. Thirdly, the total number of Catholics is rising, not falling. Only the Catholic churches in the West are losing members. But those losses are compensated by churches in Asia and Africa.

I don’t believe in the End Times anyway, but even from a Catholic perspective I don’t think we’re living in the last of days.

Yeah, wars fought with canons, arrows and single shot guns etc. Now the nuclear arsenal is enough to wipe the entire human race off the planet. This has been a possibility for less than 70 years, not much in the history of man. North Korea could create quite a bit of damage if it went ahead with a nuclear attack on its neighbour or any country within its reach. Iran Gvt hates Israel and would like to wipe Israel off the map.

This man, a bible scholar, author and teacher, has been to Turkey recently, in another video (on his own YT channel) he likens the fervour he has witnessed in Turkey to the 3rd Reich. Thinks the man of lawlessness will hail from Turkey youtube.com/watch?v=TNrhPgS7y7M

The answer is NO! Nothing is happenings nowadays that hasn’t happened in the past 2000 years. It just seems worse because of the ease of global communication.

People should stop spending time thinking about end of days and instead always be ready by living the life Christ wants us too.

The answer is (as it has always been) a resounding maybe. As the above scripture quote shows no one but the Father knows when it will happen. Could be tomorrow or could be another 2000 years or more. I don’t think that we necessarily have any more reason to believe it will be soon as people who lived 500 years ago. There have been many horrible periods of time during the history of Christianity where people have said the end must be coming soon and I have no doubt we are in for more.

Regardless we are called to be ready and to live our lives in such a way as to be approvable to the Lord regardless of when he comes. That being said I find the matter of when to largely be a non-issue.

This is an oversimplified, binary perception, IMO.

Not only are there various forms of persecution, but there is also a trajectory that can be observed. The fact that lesser persecution exists doesn’t imply that we can’t predict that persecution is going to rise or be more robust or evil.

The default position in many universities, for example, is a sort of secularism and atheism. Trying to go against that grain can be incredibly challenging, and yes, people who are not secularists and atheists can experience persecution of their beliefs in the form of censorship or worse.

I think global communication is a massive part of the problem, actually.

To name just two obvious examples: pornography and access to materials that can cultivate doubt.

Most people think that the Biblical phrase “Last Days” refers to the final few months/years of world history, especially where suffering and disaster will peak with some massive Tribulation. But this is mostly erroneous Protestant reading of the Bible.

The Bible actually defines the phrase “Last Days” very differently than this. Look at how the Bible uses the phrase:
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*]Acts 2: 16 But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel: 17 "'And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy. ******

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*]2 Timothy 3: 1 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, ******
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*]Hebrews 1: 1 Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. ******
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*]James 5: 3 Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. ******
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*]2 Peter 3: 1 This is now the second letter that I am writing to you, beloved. In both of them I am stirring up your sincere mind by way of reminder, 2 that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles, 3knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. ******
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*]1 Peter 1: 1 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, 5who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. ******
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*]1 John 2: 18 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. ******
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*]1 Peter 1: 18 knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. 20 He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you) ******
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*]Jude 1: 17 But you must remember, beloved, the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. 18They said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions.” 19It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit. 20But you, beloved, building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God ******
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At no time does the Bible use the phrase “Last Days” to refer to the final few moments of world history. Rather, the Bible uses the phrase to mean the period of Salvation History starting from the time Jesus came to dwell within Mary, and ending when Jesus Returns for the Second/Final time. **So according to the Bible, the “Last Days” have been going on for over 2,000 years now. **

In my opinion…YES definitely.

Israel becoming a state again was a big sign.

Also important to keep in mind, that verse about scoffers, those that will not see the times for what they are, saying things like "where is his return, things are like they have always been since our fathers time’, Gee, sound familiar?

I think we will see the AC within the next few years come unto the world scene, and once the abomination of desolation happens, we know 3.5 yrs from that day, Jesus will return.

Im watching the progression of that mideast peace deal right now, if Kerry gets it passed, Israel will build the 3rd temple before too long.

Things seem to be progressing according to how scripture said they would, at least imo.

From all the threads you have opened on this subject you seem desperate to fit everything into your belief. Its is NOT the end of days. You are wrong.

Im not desperate to fit it in, everything I read related to it in scripture seems to describe the times we live in today. Its on my mind alot (and many others apparently) because it scares the daylights out of me.

How can you be so sure we are not in the times? The bible says it will happen when NO ONE is expecting it, so that says alot imo, although I cannot see how this verse could be accurate, no matter what the time is, there are always some who are expecting it, so…? IF that verse is not accurate,maybe other related end time verses are too?

I don’t think anybody can say for sure.

But it’s still better not to be too hopeful.

ICXC NIKA

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