[quote=cheddarsox]I have to be honest, I don’t own a catechism, but from what I read here, and what people quote from the catechism, (and yeah, what I was taught as a kid in Catholic school, church and home) the purpose of sex is holy union and procreation. To have sex with the intent of pleasure is sin because it goes against God’s plan, we must do it for union and procreation.
The pleasure of sex is a natural part of sex, I’d say a natural part of the “bonding” part of sex. But to have pleasure as the sole purpose of sex apart from bonding violates the natural law because in this action you reduce the other to the point of an object, a non-person. To have pleasure on your mind as a part of the sexual intent (as a part of bonding with your spouse, and with being open to life) is not a violation, for in this act you are acting in accord with the wonderful and sacred gift of marital sex as the Lord gave us, because in this way, you are not seeking selfish pleasure for yourself alone, but for your spouse as well:
…Whoever truly loves his marriage partner loves not only for what he receives, but for the partner’s self, rejoicing that he can enrich his partner with the gift of himself.
(Pope Paul VI, Humanae Vitae, cf 9)
[quote=cheddarsox]I guess we are grudgingly allowed pleasure as a side effect, but it seems to make the whole act rather morally suspect. Again, that is what I see here, and was taught as a kid. The pleasure part is the part Satan gets in there to tempt us to sin.
Why grudgingly? And if you were taught that Satan is the one who made sex pleasurable, you were taught wrong. Sorry.
[quote=cheddarsox]I would love to see, for all the Catholic’s sake, that this is a misrepresentation of the church’s teachings, because, I don’t know how most thinking people could deny that pleasure is a huge part of sex.
The idea that the Church teaches that pleasure is not a part of sex does not come from the Church - it comes from those who would like to discredit the Church, those who don’t understand what the Church teaches, and/or those who do understand it but reject it anyway.
Take a look at Humanae Vitae, since this is the big dividing line between authentic Church teaching and “modern” society, and see if you can find in there, anywhere, that the Church condemns or denies the pleasure of marital sex? Reality is that the Church holds marital sex in a much higher regard than modern society. One recognizes the awesomeness of this great gift, the other reduces it to mere selfish recreation.
Peace in Christ,