Ask me anything: Episcopalian Edition


#205

Hank was very fond of Tyndale’s OBEDIENCE OF THE CHRISTIAN MAN, which he got out of La Boleyn’s lending library, which convinced him of the same point. A book he (might have) said, that was " a book for me and all kings to read".


#206

Could Parliament take it back? I guess right now the General Synod is not that much different from Parliament, so Parliament is glad to outsource it.

But suppose in the future, there is a growth in the two conservative wings, and attrition of liberals with out replacement, so the General Synod is much more religiously orthodox than a future more thoroughly secularized Parliament?

Does “the Nation”, Parliament or local authorities hold title to C of E real estate or indirect controls?


#207

I suppose they could, but why would they? How many people in Parliament or the general populace want the British government actively controlling the Church of England’s day to day affairs?

If anything, Parliament would be more likely to disestablish the Church of England, separating it from the state altogether just as they did to the Church in Wales in 1920.

You also have to remember that today Parliament is religiously diverse just like the UK is, so if Parliament would take back control you’d have non-CofE Christians and non-Christians seeking to make rules for the CofE. I can’t imagine that would go well.

The Church of England owns its own real estate. However, if the church were ever disestablished, there might also be a question as to whether it should also be disendowed, meaning deprived of certain property like land and other historic endowments.

Disendowment happened in Wales when the Anglican church there was disestablished. While the Welsh Church kept its church buildings, a lot of its glebe lands and tithe property were transferred to local governments and the University of Wales. The clergy had relied on this property for their support, so it was sort of a big loss.


#208

Speaking as someone who converted to Christianity via the Episcopal church…I love my parish-village church so much that I can pretend that the diocese and the national church don’t exist at all, except that every now and again we hear something about conventions, and there’s an annual visit by the bishop. My own views on abortion, marriage, sex, and the family are very Catholic, and if countering views were actively promoted within my parish I would have to – regretfully — put some distance between it and me, and perhaps even take the leap into the Tiber. However, ours is a quiet place with a country parson who rightfully keeps the focus on God, our brokenness, and our need to serve the least of these in our community. It really doesn’t help that we have a beautiful traditional liturgy and I’ve heard horrible things about Catholic church music since the seventies.

(Forgive me if this is presumptuous, I don’t know if other people are allowed to hitchhike onto someone else’s AMA.)


#209

I will say with the utmost respect, that while Anglicanism is in a sense “a sample of the first church” it does reconcile difficulties many have with Rome. These include:

  • married clergy
  • increased governance by laity
  • women priests
  • emphasis on reason

These are just a few. I suspect many here will dis my list as they do not reflect “truth.” Though I will say that even the RCC evolves, as the use of vernacular liturgy and increased role for deacons indicate.

BTW, St. Thomas had no choice but to be RCC - what alternative was there?

Peace


#210

Keeping in mind that point 3 is not true of Anglicanism, in total.

Thankfully.


#211

Why do you say thankfully?


#212

I like the maximum of orthodoxy in my praxis. And validly confected sacraments are a plus.


#213

How does a female priest invalidate the sacrament?


#214

Because she’s not a priest.


#215

There you go.

Not, therefore, a valid minister of the sacrament.


#216

I suspect you are not an Anglican/Episcopalian. Correct?


#217

I’m an Anglican.


#218

And so am I.


#219

Thomas defended necessity of both Faith and Reason against those who wanted only one. Today the RCC defends both, against those who have “evolved”. Of the two, Reason is the most under attack today.


#220

ACNA or Anglican Catholic Church?


#221

ACNA, though I’m an Anglo-Catholic.


#222

That would not exhaust the possibilities on the point, though. There is the Continuum , in general.


#223

Though many in ACNA “would” support women clergy. Correct?


#224

Yep. I am not among them, nor would my rector allow one at my church.


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