Atheist Group: Trade Your Bibles in for Porn

I wasn’t commenting on the posts on this thread…the atheists got what they were looking for…the angry reactions of those who claim faith in One who calls us to “Pray for those who use you spitefully”…“Do good to those who abuse you.”

I wasn’t aware that the issue of whether God exists was being discussed or that anything was being “proved” other than self professed atheists exhibit similar behavior as self professed “christians”.:shrug:

atheists call themselves free thinkers
and yet they are against people from freely thinking about God

hhhhmmm… :shrug:

This just proves atheists just want attention and lack tolerance for religion. I do think it is reflective of your typical atheist. When Christopher Hitchens says that Mother Teresa is evil or Richard Dawkins says parents that teach their kids about God should be arrested for child abuse, no voices in the atheist community jump in to condemn these militant atheists. The typical atheist I know mocks religion for being a bunch of fairly tales that only unintelligent people believe in. With speech like this, it is no surprise that some Christians would get a little upset. There is simply no need to promote your philosophy by putting others down. It makes you look insecure in your own beliefs. There are many arguments for atheism that do not have to involve putting down believers and their faith. I see this more from atheists than I do from Christians attacking atheists. It is not right when our side does but I guess without a God, anything goes for atheists since there are no consequences ultimately for them in their minds. Even moderate Islamists has done better job condemning terrorism than atheists have done condemning their militant atheists. I take the complete lack of self-policing to be tacit approval of their way of doing things. It is sad that they have to promote their philosophy with intolerance, abuse of women, and putting down of people that disagree with them.

I just find the bartered exchange totally hilarious! Even if you disagreed with its finer points regarding morality and miracles, who would swap a great historical document for porn? Wait…beer-funneling atheists? It just makes you look stupid. :rotfl:

I’m very critical of Dawkins for his atheistic evangelism. Let’s just say that I’m not a very big fan of his, or Hitchens for that matter. They are like missionaries for atheism. It’s really quite absurd.

[quote=]The typical atheist I know mocks religion for being a bunch of fairly tales that only unintelligent people believe in.
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The idea that atheism must mean secularism may be true for many western atheists. This is not the case in many Eastern religions, however. From Taoism to Buddhism to some Hindu sects, the adherents are generally indifferent to the idea of gods and yet, they are still very religious.

[quote=] I see this more from atheists than I do from Christians attacking atheists.
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I’ve seen some Christians argue that atheists must believe, lest they burn forever in eternal agony and hellfire.

Sounds pretty harsh to me. :stuck_out_tongue:

That isn’t an attack. It’s a fact about the fate of a soul which wills itself to be repelled by being-in-itself (pure being, the Living God).

The foundational difference bewteen atheists and religious people is the existence, or not, of God, so that should always be implied when demonstrations like this are, I’ll call it, “performed.”

I don’t see the similarity in behavior between these atheists and the Christians and/or religious people who reacted with insult.

Are you saying that the atheists’ intent to insult religious people, by comparing the Bible and Koran, etc., to porn is the same as Christians and religious people being insulted by that comparison? Maybe you can clarify that point.

Yes, the atheist group got the reaction they wanted from some religious people. But again I ask - what is the point? What is the point in creating such a controversial sideshow if there is no message?

“Hey. Let’s go out and insult all the religious people by comparing their Bible to porn. That will show them that we are right and there is no God.”

It’s nonsensical.

do they just want christian bibles or also copies of the koran, the torah and other religious books from other faiths? they shouldn’t just single out the holy bible.

when i see young college students do things like this - it is usually for the shock value.

years down the road, some of them will possibly look back on this and be very ashamed.

i haven’t known many atheists, so i don’t know how secure they are in this world.

i would question what value they see in porn.

When the Atheists produce Chartres Cathedral wake me up.
Atheist societies just produce a lot of bland grey ugly buildings and **** infrastructure.

The “Atheist Agenda” is an isolated and small group of atheists at the University of Texas San Antonio. They’re not a national organization, nor do they speak for atheists as a whole. To insist that they do speak for all atheists, is akin to saying that Fred Phelps speaks for all Christians.

While I do not know for certain what the motivation of the atheists was in doing such an exercise…my guess would be that one of their intentions was to drive home that the ethical response of those who claim to follow Jesus of Nazareth who calls people to “do good to those who dispitefully use you”…“Love your enemies”…“Pray for your enemies”…these scriptural injunctions carried no more weight than porno.

I don’t think their intention was to "show them that we are right and there is no God’…but that by believing in God and scripture they are no better off than the atheists. It was to drive home, IMO, that the “holy books” are held in no more value than the smut they were offering…both the atheist and the “Christian” exhibited a similar ethical response…being “religious” or “atheist” makes no difference in how one responds to one’s advesary…they each exhibit similar responses…the “atheist” was “raised” to the “Christian” level…or the “Christian” was brought to the “atheist” level…the point…their respective philosophies of life displayed the same behavior…IF that was their motivation…they prooved their point.

In my own opinion, if they would have received a different response…the “wind would have been taken from their sails” and they would have been seen as petty…as it was…the two groups complimented each other…except for the words used…there was little difference in behavior.

They only “proved” that Christians get angry. But so what? Anybody would be offended by such a display of nonsense. That Christians regularly “love, pray, and forgive their enemies” is not thereby undermined if Christians get angry. After all, Christ got incredibly upset in the Temple, but that didn’t invalidate that Christ was a “loving and forgiving person.” In case you haven’t noticed, *righteous anger *is a perfectly legitimate emotional response to abuse, slander, or severe and grave sin. It is what we decide to do with that anger that can result in good or bad results. So IF these atheists are intending to going out of their way merely to make Christians angry in order to spite them–it proves nothing more than that Christians can get angry. So the “demonstration” is totally pointless.

Perhaps to Christians…I’m sure it proved a point for the “atheists”…

.“Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:”

I’m sure the Christians felt their behavior was justified…there is always a better way…at least in my opinion…and being angry in the fashion some displayed…isn’t it…sometimes the only “Bible” anyone ever reads is us…so I wonder what kind of “bible” the atheists read and what was the message they got?..That Christians are no better than they are…or at least the atheist are no worse? Not a good message…but then…it’s only my opinion.

I noticed they interviewed college freshmen taking part in this exchange. I guess they haven’t reach the level of “sophmoric”. Therein is the problem. Spoiled children gain a little freedom, precious little wisdom and a lot of rebelliousness. It never occurs to them that is the Bible truly was the inspiration to violence they claim it is, they would be getting the stuffing beat out of them for this stunt.

Of course some christians may have responded rashly, or returned absus for abuse, but someone’s merely getting angry doesn’t prove jack chick:shrug:

I still don’t understand how someone’s getting angry toward an insult, injury, or an offence is some clear indication of this persons’s low moral worth. You and the atheist are wrongly assuming that this “test” somehow proves that. I am saying it does NOT. If you think this “test” demonstrates someone’s “true moral character” then you are incorrect.

Oh, I’m sure if the threat of arrest wasn’t in the forefront…“the stuffing” would have been “beat out of them” by some of the Christians…not all Christians are known for their restraint in using violence to silence those they deem “silencable”.

It wasn’t the mandates…or lack of mandates…in the Bible that kept them from “beating the stuffing” out of anyone…it was secualar law…not divine law that was the restraining hand…just my opinion.

…and it is a very pessimistic and unjustified opinion about how most Christians *do *and *would *behave. How do you know what some or most Christians **would **do? Your view sounds speculative at best.

That’s fair. It’s a fact to you, so it’s not an attack but the spreading of truth, in your mind.

Likewise, whenever atheists say that belief in god is irrational, it’s not to attack the believer, but to spread what they view as the truth.

You are sure? I do not know how you could know this. I thought Quakers were peaceful. The Christians I know do not resort to violence except in a narrow range of circumstances. Stupid kids is not one of those.

I don’t understand how someone’s lack of belief in God is an indication of a “person’s low moral worth”. One can have very high morals and have no belief in God…

I don’t believe getting angry at someone is necessarily a demonstration of “true moral character”…unless of course it is the way they approach most of their disagreements with others…and I may very well be “incorrect”…but then…so could you.:slight_smile:

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