Attorney General Barr Warns Officials Targeting The Faithful, Backs Church Lawsuit

Maximus1 . . .

If you are 60, with diabetes, heart/ lung condition, high BP, going to a hospital is a high probability 1 way trip

I think you need to read the thread.

SugarMagnolia was asking about the ship-hospital.

Why is that a “one-way trip”?

They (on the ship hospital) specifically make sure patients are Corona Virus-free before coming on these hospital ships that have been there for the last two weeks (that Rachel Maddow was telling you would not be there for a month).

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Don’t tell me what’s happening in my own home!!! I hear the constant ambulance sirens. I know people fighting for their lives in the hospital. I know why the hospital ship is here. You have no idea what you’re talking about. NONE! ZERO!! Come into the heart of it!! Come into the epicenter of the epicenter and then talk trash :angry:

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SugarMagnolia . . .

I hear the constant ambulance sirens.

So you are equating that with lack of ventilators, and hospital staff being over run??

I know people fighting for their lives in the hospital.

Nobody said or implied they weren’t.

People are always fighting for their lives in hospital settings.

So you are equating this with lack of ventilators, and hospital staff being over run??

I know why the hospital ship is here.

So do I.

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Just because you don’t care about Mass in a safe drive-in parking lot, that doesn’t give you the right to stop others.

I didn’t stop others. A public official did out of health concerns

We’re going in a circle here. Please explain how sitting in a parked car creates significant danger.

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I am continuously astounded by leftists’ lack of compassion for those who are now entering poverty during these Governor-forced business shutdowns during this pandemic.
And those who don’t care about attending Mass think it’s ok to PREVENT everyone else from attending. And you’ll never see these people complain about abortion sites still being open.


Virginia churches could face criminal penalties for holding services during the coronavirus outbreak.

Meanwhile, Gov. Ralph Northam, a pro-abortion Democrat who defended infanticide last year, is allowing abortion facilities to continue killing unborn babies in elective abortions unhindered.

“Ralph Northam is putting the profits of the $1 billion abortion industry ahead of the health, safety, and well-being of all Virginians,” said Victoria Cobb, president of the Family Foundation of Virginia. “His decision to allow abortions to continue when other elective procedures have been suspended is anti-science, anti-health, and anti-life.”

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I am praying for my neighbor who might never come back from the hospital. I can pray from home. God will hear me just fine.

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I think of permitting abortion and disallowing safely celebrated Mass (as in Virginia) as a “big flood”.


On Palm Sunday, Lighthouse Fellowship had conducted a worship service with 16 people practicing social distancing in a facility that seats more than 200.

Afterwards, “two police officers entered the church and issued Pastor Wilson a summons and informed him that if he had service on Easter, and if more than ten people attended, everyone would receive the same summons.”

“Because the executive orders prohibit Lighthouse’s sixteen-person, socially distanced gathering in a 225-seat church but allow similar secular conduct, such as a gathering of 16 lawyers in a large law firm conference room, the governor’s executive orders may constitute a violation of the church’s constitutional rights to the free exercise of religion,” the DOJ stated.
“The Commonwealth of Virginia has offered no good reason for refusing to trust congregants who promise to use care in worship in the same way it trusts accountants, lawyers, and other workers to do the same,” he pointed out.

We’re fortunate to have William Barr on our side, fighting against anti-Christian bigotry.

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This is old recycled news. And it was an isolated incident even when it was new.

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California, Alaska, Washington, Idaho, Montana, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, and Vermont prohibited in person religious gatherings as the coronavirus took hold of the United States.

People do not go into liquor stores hundreds at a time and stay for an hour. At least in Minnesota, public mass was suspended by the Archbishop before any state orders came down. And just today the Minnesota bishops and the Governor reached a compromise. Mass at 25% capacity and social distancing for now.

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You forgot to mention shopping malls are allowed to be open at 50%.

I’m not criticizing opening shopping malls to such an extent, but Mass is much more important.

Every Catholic Bishop I have heard of , shut down our Catholic services to protect health and life.
I don’t know why these overtures to other churches that didn’t do what we did for the reasons we did them.
Lifesite seems oblivious to the Catholic Church.
I think our church was right. These articles indirectly question us. In fact in their us and them, the Catholic Church is somehow anti-religion.

What I find interesting, and I apologize to any offended non-catholics, but, what exactly are the protestant churches missing?

I mean, Catholics are forgoing the sacrament of Holy Communion for the good of the congregation. What is the compelling reason for the non-catholic Christians to get back into their services?

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I sincerely don’t understand how we can receive safely once we can go.

One asymptomatic person in line to receive could spread it.

Where I go (eastern practice):

  • A separate spoon and napkin is used for each communicant, who then drops immediately places them into containers for proper handling.
  • Icons and the cross are venerated without kissing.
  • The services are still entirely sung; mask are worn AND six feet of distance is maintained; the congregation attends on a cycle, with only enough permitted to enter the church to maintain the distancing - the rest may participate by live-streaming; the choir is reduced to a 4-6 voices, who maintain separation (unless they are members of the same family) and orient themselves to avoid projecting aerosol at one another.
  • Processions have been minimized.
  • Only communion services (Divine Liturgy) have been offered; no vespers or matins.

As you might imagine, very little of this is from the governor; it is from the bishop.

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Well, no wine, no Mass. :slight_smile:

Maximus1 . . . .

Every Catholic Bishop I have heard of , shut down our Catholic services to protect health and life.

Fortunately now they are opening them back up now to protect eternal health and life.

Thank you Catholic Bishops!

They will when lives are not put at risk as their actual concern. Not " because I have a right to."
Catholic values guides their decisions.

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