Bank Ad "I will"


#1

This ad is on tv now ,it says "I will" alot kind of like Lucifer did in Isaiah chap 14-

youtube.com/watch?v=jIqCCS4KeEw

i noticed there is also 5 'i wills' in the ad like there is 5 in Isiah...

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?


#2

This is clearly just a coincidence! There couldn’t possibly be a link between commercialism and satan!!!

But seriously, repeatedly pledging “I Will” is a fairly common format when taking oaths for various organizations or communities. I think it is more likely that the commercial is mimicking the traditional format of an oath pledge then quoting Lucifer…


#3

[quote="MidnightSun12, post:2, topic:275929"]
This is clearly just a coincidence! There couldn't possibly be a link between commercialism and satan!!!

But seriously, repeatedly pledging "I Will" is a fairly common format when taking oaths for various organizations or communities. I think it is more likely that the commercial is mimicking the traditional format of an oath pledge then quoting Lucifer...

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thanks for your post:)

In the NT it says we should say 'God willing' i will do this and do that

the devil who is the 'prince of this world' wants people to do their own will instead of doing 'Gods will'

even the satanic churchs law is 'Do what thou wilt' in other words to do your own will..


#4

[quote="Paul_theApostle, post:3, topic:275929"]
thanks for your post:)

In the NT it says we should say 'God willing' i will do this and do that

the devil who is the 'prince of this world' wants people to do their own will instead of doing 'Gods will'

even the satanic churchs law is 'Do what thou wilt' in other words to do your own will..

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You mean Thelema? :confused:


#5

[quote="VeritasLuxMea, post:4, topic:275929"]
You mean Thelema? :confused:

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Sorry i dont know much about it but i thought Alistair Crowley was a satanist,and i dont want to search satanic stuff on the net but im just saying i thought that satanists practice the law of 'do what thou wilt' also

on wiki "thelema" its says -

Thus, contemporary Thelemites may practice more than one religion, including Discordianism, Wicca, Gnosticism, Satanism, Setianism and Luciferianism.[84] Many adherents of Thelema, none more so than Crowley, recognize correlations between Thelemic and other systems of spiritual thought; most borrow freely from the methods and practices of other traditions, including alchemy, astrology, qabalah, tantra, tarot divination and yoga


#6

[quote="Paul_theApostle, post:5, topic:275929"]
Sorry i dont know much about it but i thought Alistair Crowley was a satanist,and i dont want to search satanic stuff on the net but im just saying i thought that satanists practice the law of 'do what thou wilt' also

on wiki "thelema" its says -

Thus, contemporary Thelemites may practice more than one religion, including Discordianism, Wicca, Gnosticism, Satanism, Setianism and Luciferianism.[84] Many adherents of Thelema, none more so than Crowley, recognize correlations between Thelemic and other systems of spiritual thought; most borrow freely from the methods and practices of other traditions, including alchemy, astrology, qabalah, tantra, tarot divination and yoga

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Just curious as to what "church" you meant since you seemed to know a lot.

This phrase is found in many places, though with different wordings -

Wiccan Rede is "An it harm none, do what thou wilt," which at the very least is better than "Do what thou wilt."

Thelema says, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," though to be honest you can't understand that without the necessary context - as it does not refer to 'anything', but rather something called 'True Will' which is a complex concept.

What you're talking about does sound rather close to one of the tenets of Satanism as described by the Church of Satan, though I don't think they ever use that phrase. That's why I was confused.


#7

[quote="VeritasLuxMea, post:6, topic:275929"]
Just curious as to what "church" you meant since you seemed to know a lot.

This phrase is found in many places, though with different wordings -

Wiccan Rede is "An it harm none, do what thou wilt," which at the very least is better than "Do what thou wilt."

Thelema says, "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," though to be honest you can't understand that without the necessary context - as it does not refer to 'anything', but rather something called 'True Will' which is a complex concept.

What you're talking about does sound rather close to one of the tenets of Satanism as described by the Church of Satan, though I don't think they ever use that phrase. That's why I was confused.

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Ok

No i dont know much and i dont know which church may use that in fact,sorry for the confusion

few years ago i watched things about Crowley and watched and interview with a heavy metal singer into satanism,he had a satanic bible with him
i cant remember all of what i watched but satanism was talked about and the verse 'do what thou wilt etc'

As i cant remember exactly all of it maybe im wrong about the satanic church thing using this verse etc

i dont want to watch those videos again,because when i was watching them last time,for the next few days TVs in my house were switching on and off by themselves

forget that stuff anyway


#8

"I will" is also a response to 2 of the questions preceding Catholic marriage vows:

"Will you honor each other as man and wife for the rest of your lives?" - I will

"Will you accept children lovingly from God, and bring them up according to the law of Christ and his Church?" - I will

My point is just that using I will does not mean something is satanic in anyway. It's a common way of verbalizing a commitment.


#9

[quote="Paul_theApostle, post:1, topic:275929"]
This ad is on tv now ,it says "I will" alot kind of like Lucifer did in Isaiah chap 14-

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I recall Obama saying that a lot... :rolleyes:


#10

[quote="Paul_theApostle, post:7, topic:275929"]
Ok

i dont want to watch those videos again,because when i was watching them last time,for the next few days TVs in my house were switching on and off by themselves

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That's wild. I used to listen to Deicide's Serpents of the Light album every day! Nothing happened!


#11

Well of course Obama is the dark lord reincarnate. :rolleyes:


#12

[quote="VeritasLuxMea, post:10, topic:275929"]
That's wild. I used to listen to Deicide's Serpents of the Light album every day! Nothing happened!

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I guess the devil himself doesnt have to switch on your radio if your doing it yourself:p

im sure hed be quite content for you to switch on Deicide :o


#13

[quote="Paul_theApostle, post:12, topic:275929"]
I guess the devil himself doesnt have to switch on your radio if your doing it yourself:p

im sure hed be quite content for you to switch on Deicide :o

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Haven't listened to that stuff in years. Yes, the double bass drum is sweet but it gets repetitive and I find the lyrics abusive.

In the past, I've done a lot of things to tempt the Devil but he doesn't seem to have time for me. Guess I'm not important enough. :shrug:


#14

[quote="VeritasLuxMea, post:13, topic:275929"]
Haven't listened to that stuff in years. Yes, the double bass drum is sweet but it gets repetitive and I find the lyrics abusive.

In the past, I've done a lot of things to tempt the Devil but he doesn't seem to have time for me. Guess I'm not important enough. :shrug:

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If God is important to 'us' ,then im sure a few demons will rear their ugly head and try to have a say about that


#15

Exercising your will is a gift from God Himself. To say that when one exerts his/her own will is a mark of evil is a spit in the face of both God and our humanity.


#16

[quote="Lost_Wanderer, post:15, topic:275929"]
Exercising your will is a gift from God Himself. To say that when one exerts his/her own will is a mark of evil is a spit in the face of both God and our humanity.

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executableoutlines.com/ja/ja_14.htm

*Conclusion

  1. How do we make our plans? a. If we plan without considering the will of God, then we are foolish, arrogant, and sinful! b. If we make our plans subject to the approval of God, then we are wise, submissive, and righteous in God's sight! c. If we endeavor to plan as much as we can within the framework of God's "revealed" will, then we increase the likelihood of success! *

#17

Epistle of James

4:13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 4:14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

4:15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.


#18

[quote="Paul_theApostle, post:16, topic:275929"]
executableoutlines.com/ja/ja_14.htm

*Conclusion

  1. How do we make our plans? a. If we plan without considering the will of God, then we are foolish, arrogant, and sinful! b. If we make our plans subject to the approval of God, then we are wise, submissive, and righteous in God's sight!* c. If we endeavor to plan as much as we can within the framework of God's "revealed" will, then we increase the likelihood of success!

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What does the bold part actually mean... in practice?


#19

I would say a Christian understands their plans are subject to Gods will rather they say it or not. If my husband asks me what is for dinner tonight, should I say, baked ziti, God willing? Obviously if God has other plans, they will trump mine. It doesn’t mean I have to say that every time I make a plan or commitment.


#20

If you like to read ,here is something about "God willing"

southwoodsbc.org/sermons/james_04.13-17.php

also

trinityurcvisalia.com/sermons/jam4v13-17.html

"James believes in a providential God. All things are ruled and controlled by this God and not by us. All things are in His hands and not ours. Leaf and blade, rain and drought, fruitful and lean years, **food and drink, health and sickness, prosperity and poverty, come to us not by our own efforts but from the hands of God. Says James, "Every good and perfect gift is from above" (James 1:17)."
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III Putting into Practice
A James wants the Christians of his day, he wants us, to acknowledge that God is in control. It is not enough to say or to think "the Lord willing." As I said before, this is not some kind of magical formula that will guarantee success. We not only have to say it or think it but we also have to LIVE IT! The point is that our words and our actions must not contradict each other; what we say and what we do must be in harmony with each other; we must not be hypocrites.

B "The Lord willing." How can we put this belief into practice? How can we live this?

First of all, in any and every situation ask yourself, "What does God want me to do? What is His will for my life?" Young people should ask this as they pick a college to go to. Young adults should ask this as they decide on marriage. We should ask this as we pick the school our children go to. We should ask this as we consider another job or look for another job. We should ask this as we consider serving on church council, the school board, city council, a committee. It isn't only ministers and Christian school teachers who must follow the Lord's leading and answer His call. We all must discern the will of God for our lives.

Secondly, we are to pray, pray, pray. Our asking – and that's what we mostly do in prayer – our asking shows our total dependence upon God. Our asking is a daily reminder that we need the Lord's blessing and leading. Ask the Lord to guide you in all your ways.*


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