Oh um…okay…let me try this.
It’s 4th century. There is no Bible. How do I know how to baptize?
The only I answer I can think of is by word of mouth right? Um…the method of baptism passed down from the apostles. From what people saw them do, and taught their kids to do, and etc.
Is that right? Do I get a cookie?
A BIG COOKIE FOR YOU:clapping:
"He [Jesus] came to save all through himself; all, I say, who through him are reborn in God: infants, and children, and youths, and old men. Therefore he passed through every age, becoming an infant for infants, sanctifying infants; a child for children, sanctifying those who are of that age . . . [so that] he might be the perfect teacher in all things, perfect not only in respect to the setting forth of truth, perfect also in respect to relative age" (*Against Heresies *2:22:4 A.D. 189]).
"Baptize first the children, and if they can speak for themselves let them do so. Otherwise, let their parents or other relatives speak for them" (*The Apostolic Tradition *21:16 A.D. 215]).
** “What the universal Church holds, not as instituted [invented] by councils but as something always held, is most correctly believed to have been handed down by apostolic authority**. Since others respond for children, so that the celebration of the sacrament may be complete for them, it is certainly availing to them for their consecration, because they themselves are not able to respond” (*On Baptism, Against the Donatists *4:24:31 A.D. 400]).
"The custom of Mother Church in baptizing infants is certainly not to be scorned, nor is it to be regarded in any way as superfluous, nor is it to be believed that its tradition is anything except apostolic" (*The Literal Interpretation of Genesis *10:23:39 [A.D. 408]).
INSTRUCTION ON INFANT BAPTISM By the Sacred Cong. for the Doctrine of the Faith
- This teaching was constantly reaffirmed and defended during the Middle Ages. In particular, the Council of Vienna in 1312 stressed that the sacrament of Baptism has for its effect, in the case of infants, not just the forgiveness of sins but also the granting of grace and the virtues. The Council of Florence in 1442 rebuked those who wanted Baptism postponed and declared that infants should receive “as soon as is convenient” (quam primum commode) the sacrament “through which they are rescued from the devil’s power and adopted as God’s children.”
So, it seems that the early church taught and practiced infant baptism because the Apostles taught it. Then long, long after we had the Bible, it was affirmed in 1312, and again in 1442. So, now we get this thing about the Catholic Church making changes and not following the Bible, etc., etc. So those that do not believe in infant baptism, where do you get those teachings? Remember, the Apostles taught the early Church and Jesus taught the Apostles. So who taught you? If you say you only follow the Bible, then you are saying that the Bible goes against what Jesus taught.