Baptism of not literal water?

A heretic posted in a group (Catholic Group) that the Catholic interpretation of baptism of water and spirit is wrong, since water and spirit is hebraic for the holy spirit.

His basis is isaiah 44:3 and john 7:38-39. Being water used as a symbolic word for the works of the holy spirit in sanctifying a believer, I quote from him “whereby God cleanses and purifies the believer’s heart and soul”

This is my first time encountering this, i really need your help.

Well, it is not your responsibility to prove him wrong; it is on him to prove this theory right.

I’d like to see what he does about St. John the Baptist.

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“Peter [said] to them, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭NABRE‬

Maybe this verse helps? Mayhaps, God in His Providence, knew that water is a symbol of the Holy Spirit’s works and made it so that water would be a physical means of obtaining the grace of the Holy Spirit. After all, God made matter as well as the immaterial. He works through the material, as seen many times in the Scriptures.

That, and you can simply point out that the Church with her 2,000 years worth of Tradition, including from the Apostles and from the Apostle’s followers themselves, has more wisdom and understanding and authority than the person you are arguing with. Ask them where they get their authority to make such pronouncements.

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The Ethiopian eunuch was baptized by the Apostle Philip in literal water:

(Acts 8:36-39)
36 As they traveled along the road and came to some water, the eunuch said, “Look, here is water! What is there to prevent me from being baptized?” 37 And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.” 38 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and Philip baptized him. 39 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord carried Philip away, and the eunuch saw him no more, but went on his way rejoicing.


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