Baptist post about how God can be just and forgive. is this right?

We are justified but salvation, itself, is a process and that is where protestantism is in error:

Hebrews 12:23King James Version (KJV)

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the ***spirits of just men made perfec***t,

Mentioned again

1 Corinthians 3:15New International Version (NIV)

15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames

No losses in Heaven and in hell you don’t get out, so there has to be a place or state of being…a process in which Christians who miss the mark are cleaned up.

I don’t like Luther’s analogy of turds going to heaven. You know he often spoke vulgar about shoving Satan in his rectum(eww :eek:) So he had a propensity to speak this way.

In the Catholic church, dung doesn’t go to heaven, cleaned up people go who trusted in Christ and were made perfect at the hour of their death.


see if this helps

Justification: Process or One-Time Deal?


Share this verse from Revelation:

Revelation 7:14

14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

We wash “our robes and made them white”…by cooperating with God’s grace.

The part in red is completely false!

In the Lord’s Prayer we say, “forgive us sins as we forgive those who trespass against us”. We don’t require a sacrifice to forgive and neither does God. Also, look at the prodigal son parable - the father forgave the son without requiring a sacrifice. God does nothing contrary to justice by forgiving without a sacrifice.

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