[quote="Evan, post:9, topic:280448"]
To determine death is not easy, see this article concerning brain death.
How did they determine the baby was dead? EKG? breathing (unreliable) heartbeat (unreliable) spanking (unreliable)
How did they determine Jesus was dead. They put a spear through his heart. After that, brain death should soon follow even if he were still alive. By the way, the Romans had a LOT of practice in killing people.
I just read some old posts from 2008 or so by a poster who is now banned but he did raise some points I'm curious about. He made claims about:
1) whomever is wrapped in the Shroud of Turin wasn't really dead according to modern science but that he was classified as dead by the science of the day, that we currently have much more reliable means to determine whether a person is really dead or not.
2) he stated that there is no evidence that Jesus was actually pierced through the heart and not intended to kill, simply done to see if he reacted to pain which was their way of determining that He was dead.
3) there was the desire of the Romans to prolong Jesus' suffering (and others being executed in this manner) by minimizing the amount of blood He shed during His flogging and His walk to the crucifixion, and
4) when the "execution detail was of a merciful intent" the victim was offered "wine inticted with myrrh and opium and possibly "puffer fish poison" to kill the victim with less agony than there would be otherwise.
Nobody answered these claims and the thread died shortly after. Can someone answer these theories?