Ben Carson: Obamacare worst thing since slavery

Dr. Ben Carson didn’t mince words: Obamacare is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.”
Dr. Carson made the declaration about President Obama’s sweeping health care mandate Friday during a speech at the Values Voter Summit.
“It is slavery because it aims to make all of us subservient to the government ,” he said. “It was never about health care. It was about control.”
Dr. Carson further compared the new health care reform to policies envisioned by Vladimir Lenin, one of the fathers of socialism and communism.
“Socialized medicine is the keystone in the establishment of a socialist state,” Dr. Carson told the audience of some 2,000 supporters of traditional values .
Such a comment may seem paranoid to some, he said, “but I would say if you know anything about history, how could you not bring it up?”
When people in the executive and legislative branch don’t have to participate, but everybody else has to, “that’s not America, that’s Russia ,” he added.

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Well, let’s look at a description of communism and see how much of it fits with the Democrat party agenda:

Refusing to human life any sacred or spiritual character, such a doctrine logically makes of marriage and the family a purely artificial and civil institution, the outcome of a specific economic system. There exists no matrimonial bond of a juridico-moral nature that is not subject to the whim of the individual or of the collectivity. Naturally, therefore, the notion of an indissoluble marriage-tie is scouted. Communism is particularly characterized by the rejection of any link that binds woman to the family and the home, and her emancipation is proclaimed as a basic principle. She is withdrawn from the family and the care of her children, to be thrust instead into public life and collective production under the same conditions as man. The care of home and children then devolves upon the collectivity. Finally, the right of education is denied to parents, for it is conceived as the exclusive prerogative of the community, in whose name and by whose mandate alone parents may exercise this right…How is it possible that such a system, long since rejected scientifically and now proved erroneous by experience, how is it, We ask, that such a system could spread so rapidly in all parts of the world? The explanation lies in the fact that too few have been able to grasp the nature of Communism. The majority instead succumb to its deception, skillfully concealed by the most extravagant promises. By pretending to desire only the betterment of the condition of the working classes, by urging the removal of the very real abuses chargeable to the liberalistic economic order, and by demanding a more equitable distribution of this world’s goods (objectives entirely and undoubtedly legitimate), the Communist takes advantage of the present world-wide economic crisis to draw into the sphere of his influence even those sections of the populace which on principle reject all forms of materialism and terrorism. And as every error contains its element of truth, the partial truths to which We have referred are astutely presented according to the needs of time and place, to conceal, when convenient, the repulsive crudity and inhumanity of Communistic principles and tactics. Thus the Communist ideal wins over many of the better minded members of the community. These in turn become the apostles of the movement among the younger intelligentsia who are still too immature to recognize the intrinsic errors of the system. The preachers of Communism are also proficient in exploiting racial antagonisms and political divisions and oppositions. They take advantage of the lack of orientation characteristic of modern agnostic science in order to burrow into the universities, where they bolster up the principles of their doctrine with pseudo-scientific arguments.” - Divini Redemptoris, Encyclical of Pope Pius XI on Atheistic Communism

This is so far inaccurate it’s ridiculous.

And to livingwordunity: I don’t think it’s fair to call the Democratic party communist. There are definitely some Marxist influences within it, but it’s more of a welfare/statism type party with roots in liberalism rather than Marxism. Liberalism (classical and modern) and Marxism have similar results but different ways of getting there.

But you have to admit that the parts that I bolded in Divini Redemptoris are identical to the ideology and political tactics of the Democrat party.

For the majority of the Democratic party, yes.

yes, and Obama is the big plantation owner and we are his slaves.

I really need to understand the American psyche. It is befuddling, for those of us in other countries, to watch this fiasco over health care reform. I learned from an American colleague at university that it is about “liberty”. I listened to her, agape, as she explained that those whom Obamacare is supposed to help - ie the poorest - are often its harshest critics because it is taking away their “choice”. She herself is a Democrat voter, nevertheless she sympathised with and understood the problems many Americans have with this.

I just don’t get it :shrug: And I doubt that I’m the only one. What’s so bad about putting a little of one’s earned money into a healthcare scheme to make it more readily available and accessible? Why do Americans, unlike Canadians, Brits, Australians, Scandinavians and so on have such a problem with extensive, free and universal health care (Obama isn’t even trying to do this, I shudder to imagine if he were)?

Americans are truly unique as a nation. I see that more than ever with this Obamacare crisis. This just wouldn’t happen anywhere else.

I’m not attacking, or judging, I simply just don’t get it. This obsessive fear that it leads to “big government”, totalitarianism…now, slavery? I mean :shrug:

Really? Obamacare is worse than the Holocaust? Ben Carson is a right wing nutcase.

SOME Americans, not all Americans, have problems with the Affordable Care Act, and those that are upset are perhaps more passionate in voicing their opinions. I try to see the potential for good with this law, but then again, I’m not opposed to universal health care either.

Slavery was the term being used, according to the article any way.

Yours is an ad hominem attack.
Other than to correct the misinformation, there is nothing to really rationally argue with.

Oh please, he is a world famous brain surgeon. He came from a very poor single family home. The mother worked as a cleaning lady and even though illiterate herself, to help Ben
she made him read two books a week and write a report for her on them. Really very far from a right wing nutcase. Save your insults for someone else.

to Ben Carson: AMEN!!!

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Worse than slavery??
Well…Jesus talked about how to properly punish your slaves in the Christian canon gospels and the inspired word of God in the Old Testament spoke in detail about how to purchase and treat your slaves.

Accordingly, slavery doesn’t seem to be thought of as all that bad.

But still…perhaps we can find some sacred words that will help us figure out how to make healthcare in the USA available and affordable to everyone.
It looks like the president is trying very hard to do this.
His first try at it may not be perfect, it may need adjusting and tweaking along the way as we take a new road…but his motive is good–to bring healthcare to everyone.

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Nice:confused:

I don’t get it either…and I live here. It’s as ridiculous as it sounds.

I agree. Let’s fix the problems and carry on. What’s wrong with that?

Yes it is.

I am an American, and yet I am just as confused as you are on the matter.

Perhaps she was saying that by limiting health insurance options prices will increase for a majority of Americans? Otherwise it’s a strange argument.

I just don’t get it :shrug: And I doubt that I’m the only one. What’s so bad about putting a little of one’s earned money into a healthcare scheme to make it more readily available and accessible? Why do Americans, unlike Canadians, Brits, Australians, Scandinavians and so on have such a problem with extensive, free and universal health care (Obama isn’t even trying to do this, I shudder to imagine if he were)?

It isn’t. Problem is Obamacare/Affordable Health Care Act doesn’t make health care more accessible. It’s a health insurance scheme about who will pay for whose health care. It’s a little better than now if you are single and make less than about 50K, but it’s harsh if you are 400%+ above the poverty level. That’s lower-middle class on the east coast of the US. You get penalized for being married and having a stable family, and rates go up for a majority of Americans. All this with a negligible amount more people if any having access to health insurance.

ICYDK, numerous bishops have spoken out against Obamacare, not just because of the funding of abortions and the HHS Mandate, but also because it’s really just a government overhaul of health care to create a welfare state.

Americans are truly unique as a nation. I see that more than ever with this Obamacare crisis. This just wouldn’t happen anywhere else.

Part of the problem is that they tried taking the Swiss health insurance system (which is pretty effective) and planting it here in the US. Except they took the worse parts of it and left out better aspects. It’s all just a stepping stone toward a single payer system really.

I’m not attacking, or judging, I simply just don’t get it. This obsessive fear that it leads to “big government”, totalitarianism…now, slavery? I mean :shrug:

Yeah, the slavery thing is a bit weird. Us Americans aren’t completely nuts. :wink:

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