Benedict Will End Lefebvre Schism


#1

According to many Vatican sources and international news reports, including the Italian newspaper L’Indipendente (indipendenteinrete.it/admin/immagini/1702_indipendente_02.pdf) , our Holy Father is moving to end the split between the Holy See and the Society of Saint Pius X. This is the group founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, outspoken opponent of Vatican II liturgical changes, who was grudgingly :frowning: excommunicated by Pope John Paul II after illegally elevating four priests to the rank of Bishop in 1988 as his health was failing. Pope Benedict and his delegate, Cardinal Dario Castrillon-Hoyos have been in constant, friendly :slight_smile: contact with high ranking members of the SSPX, acronym for the Lefebvristas. The Holy See has been looking forward to bringing SSPX back to full Communion with Rome as its first major Papal accomplishment. :smiley: Three years ago, Castrillon-Hoyos was instrumental in bringing a similar group from Brazil back into the fold under its own Apostolic Administration. Particularly encouraging was the Pope’s December 22 address to the Roman Curia, in which His Holiness indicated that parts of Vatican II may have been “inadequate or mistaken”, that “proper hermeneutics” (i.e. interpretations) of Vatican II must be applied in order to understand its true implications, and that Vatican II documents carried no jurisdictional weight of their own, but rather that any Church Council must have “a mandator, and then confirmation by the mandator.” (vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2005/december/documents/hf_ben_xvi_spe_20051222_roman-curia_en.html)
What does all this mean? Could this be the beginning of a reconsideration of VII in full historical context? Could John Paul II’s indult allowing masses with the 1962 missal be expanded to allow Tridentine masses at parish discretion, instead requiring bishop approval as now? These have been the principal requirements of SSPX in their previous negotiations. Finally, if and when SSPX are brought back into Communion, will they use their administrative independence to criticize some of the Church’s more ill-advised modernist experimentations from within? I trust my post VII generation is learning its Latin!! :thumbsup:


#2

I really hope this is true. This is great news! :smiley:

[quote=Elmariachi]Particularly encouraging was the Pope’s December 22 address to the Roman Curia, in which His Holiness indicated that … Vatican II documents carried no jurisdictional weight of their own, but rather that any Church Council must have “a mandator, and then confirmation by the mandator.”
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YES!!! Finally!!! Someone who actually *gets *it! :clapping:

[quote=Elmariachi]Could John Paul II’s indult allowing masses with the 1962 missal be expanded to allow Tridentine masses at parish discretion, instead requiring bishop approval as now?
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Please, God, please please please…:bowdown:


#3

Maybe the Vatican II docs would be interperated ‘as written’

It is a matter of Record that Archbishop Lefebvre voted in favor of 15 of the 16 documents (he voted ‘no’ on the Declaration on Evangelization)

But the Archbishop voted in favor of all the really critical docs, including both Consititutions (Lumen Genitum and Sacrsanctum Concillium)

So there can’t be too much in there that the SSPX would disagree with.

All that needs to happen is that they be enacted as written.


#4

Duplicate thread:
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