Bernie Sanders Takes Lead in Iowa, Joe Biden Drops to Fourth

Joe Biden (who I think of as “Abortion Joe” due to his wanton abortion advocacy) continues sinking in the polls as he continues to commit gaffes weekly and sometimes daily.

Bernie Sanders Takes Lead in Iowa, Joe Biden Drops to Fourth

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HANNAH BLEAU

10 Jan 2020 Breitbart News

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has taken the lead in Iowa less than a month ahead of the February 3 caucus, a CNN/ Des Moines Register /Mediacom poll released Friday revealed.

The poll, taken January 2-8, 2020, among 701 Democrat caucus-goers, found the socialist senator taking the lead in the Hawkeye State with 20 percent support, followed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), who followed closely behind with 17 percent support. . . .

Interesting, but I just don’t understand the excitement over Bernie. At least this election, he won’t have Hillary sabotaging his campaign.

7_Sorrows . . .

At least this election, he won’t have Hillary sabotaging his campaign.

Good point.

I wonder if Bernie will ask Hillary to be his running mate? (It is starting to look like it might be Bernie running for the Democrats in 2020).

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Still pushing this Russian meme? :rofl:

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Looks like the Trump base is getting nervous.

At this point, the focus of concern might be better placed not on which of the top four will win the nomination, but how many of the top four can defeat Trump.

Ideologues, left and right, do not elect Presidents, the centrists do. And in the end, the “base” may be inconsequential for Trump or the liberal left that his base seem intent on labeling as socialists or some other scary adjective.

Biden, Buttigieg, Sanders and Warren are almost within the margin of error of the poll, so they are effectively tied, with 13% of respondents not making a choice.

So, we don’t know. There is no leader.

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Guess Brazile was a Russian meme.

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This is the most truthful statement ever made about the 2020 Democrat field.

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What? They call themselves that. Their base on significant numbers call for socialism. Apparently they don’t consider it scary (I do, of course, because I know what horrors it produces in the last century). So don’t blame that on Trump or his supporters.

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Sabotage. :roll_eyes:

Undermined.
Worked against in the background.
Created an unfair advantage for Clinton.

Sabotage?

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Guess Bloomberg, Gates, Buffet, and Bezos need to have a little talk with them.

Thanks for links to the actual events behind the charge of “sabotage”. More:

A pair of emails from March 2016 showed Brazile advising Clinton’s communications director that Hillary would get questions about the death penalty at one debate and the Flint, Mich., water crisis at a second.

My goodness, Brazile may have given some slight and unfair edge to Clinton, but as the Hill notes:

No one question precisely correlates with Brazile’s warning, but several questions in the debate did address the host city of the debate, roiled by a lead-contaminated drinking water crisis.

The tip that there will be a question about the water in Flint no doubt made a huge difference. Who could have anticipated that? I think that we should be able agree that this is small potatoes. it is not like states were abandoning primaries and just handing the delegates to Clinton.

I wonder how they define it. I would guess rather unlike the conservative echo chamber.
Did the poll that you cited include a definition?

I don’t know. The proper definition is government ownership or strict control of the means of production.
You’d have to ask them what they mean.

Okay, but it is indicative of an attempt to put a finger on the scale. I don’t have a dog in that hunt, since I couldn’t vote for either.
I did find the super delegate system to be, how shall I say, weird.

Yes. in order to draw proper inferences about the base from that polling, you would have to ask them what they mean.

But don’t blame that on Republicans. Personally, I just assume they mean the definition I gave. They seem to be more the “strict government control “ type socialists than the “government ownership” type, but I consider that a distinction with very little difference.

Yes, that happens when the outcome begins to look clear, and the party becomes more interested in coalescing support around the eventual nominee then about the contest.

One of the complaints brought forward was that some primaries were open only to registered Democrats. I think that that is the proper way to conduct primaries.

It is a vestige from decades ago. Which has has little impact on the races.

What do you think of this year’s structure of Republican primaries? Some of them are taking the super delegate concept to the extreme: awarding of all delegates by the party committee; none from primary voting.

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I wonder equally what republicans think. Going well beyond the definition into democidal authoritarianism seems to be common in the echo chamber.

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