I was sitting here half listening to a rerun of a PBS show The Kalb Report and I heard something interesting.
On Saturday, September 27, 2008, Fox News host Bill O’Reilly stepped out of the “No Spin Zone” and joined Marvin Kalb to discuss Journalism, Commentary, and The O’Reilly Factor.
I heard a popular news reporter speak out against abortion and gay marriage in his own way. He apparently approves of gay adoption.O’Reilly’s bio reflects that he is Roman Catholic.
BILL O’REILLY: Abortion, I believe is a private decision that the public square, public square is probably …(inaudible). The government has to decide what the human rights element of abortion is. The government never has decided that. So we know DNA is present at conception. So that takes away any kind of, “Well, it’s a—a fetus is just something you can throw in the garbage,” or something like that. It elevates it up. There is DNA present at conception. Okay. So start there. So then I say to myself, it’s not the government’s job to basically tell people what to do. But there’s another potential person involved here, the fetus. So I use potential person because you can’t argue with that.
So I say, okay, let’s get a sane—let’s get a sane policy on this. We don’t have a sane policy now. We have a lot of emotion. We have a lot of political stuff. And I think that most Americans say, “If we could eliminate all abortions, that would be the best.” But I also think most Americans don’t want a law against it because that is not going to eliminate the abortions. You see? You see how complicated it is? If we could eliminate abortions, I think 90% of Americans would say, “That’s good. Let’s do that.” All right? “It’s not a good thing.”
But you can’t eliminate it by outlawing it. It doesn’t work. And then you create unintended consequences and more problems, all kinds of stuff. So the government, I think should basically take this much more seriously than it does. It is really a human rights issue. When you have more than a million babies, potential human beings terminated, I think you’ve got to think about that.
MARVIN KALB: It’s pro choice.
BILL O’REILLY: You know, I wouldn’t encourage anyone to have an abortion. I’ll tell you a story and I wrote about this in Culture Warrior. A girl came to me, a friend of mine, and said, “Look, I’m pregnant and can’t have the baby and I have to have an abortion. I don’t have any money. Will you help me? Will you lend me money?” And I really liked this person and I knew that she was in a real jam. And I said, “No. I’m not going to do it. I can’t have that on my sheet, my conscience. But what I will do is, I’ll support you monetarily. I’ll find a place for you to live and give you money until you have the baby and then I’ll arrange for Catholic Charities to put it up for adoption. I’ll do it all. That’s what I’ll do for you.”
MARVIN KALB: Okay. Gay rights. Where do you stand or sit on that?
BILL O’REILLY: Gay rights. I mean—
MARVIN KALB: Should gays have rights?
BILL O’REILLY: Sure. They are Americans.
MARVIN KALB: Right, including the right to marriage, any time, any place?
BILL O’REILLY: No. Here is my problem with gay marriage deal. If you let the gays marry, then the polygamists have to marry, too. Then the commune people marry. The triads marry. And then you marry your cousin. Then you marry a duck, right? I mean, you get into that thing like, okay, you want the gays to—and, by the way, do I care about this? Not really. I don’t care what Lenny and Squiggy do. I don’t care. They want to get married, let them get married.
MARVIN KALB: Oh, so you don’t have–
BILL O’REILLY: But if you are going to do equal justice–
MARVIN KALB: Right.
BILL O’REILLY: Then if you open it up for one group, you’ve got to open it up for all the groups. And they have done that in Holland, by the way.
MARVIN KALB: In terms of gays, you would have no problem with marriage.
BILL O’REILLY: Personally?
MARVIN KALB: Yeah.
BILL O’REILLY: I don’t care.