Bowling Green massacre: Trump aide cites non-existent attack

Bowling Green massacre: Trump aide cites non-existent attack

Really Conway?

Kellyanne Conway:

On @hardball @NBCNews @MSNBC I meant to say “Bowling Green terrorists” as reported here:

She was referring to this story:

Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky – who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq – prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints.

C’mon, she’s supposed to be cabinet level squared away?

She’s not and she’s been caught out in lies and intentional misinformation before.

No way she gets a pass…



Associated Press

A White House adviser’s commentary about a massacre in Kentucky that never happened has sparked seemingly endless snickering online, with jabs like “never remember” and "I survived the Bowling Green massacre."

Kellyanne Conway mentioned the fictional massacre in an MSNBC interview Thursday as the reason for a temporary travel ban for Iraqis in 2011, saying it also proved why the Trump administration’s ban was necessary. It thrust this college town back into the national spotlight, nearly three years after a sinkhole that swallowed several classic Corvettes at a museum in Bowling Green garnered worldwide attention.

Even Big Red, the beloved, furry Western Kentucky University mascot, wasn’t immune: One social media post shows him sprawled on the ground with the inscription “Never forget.”

“The jokes are flying for sure,” said Guy Jordan, who teaches at Western Kentucky. “My sense of things is that we are today a city of people walking around looking at their phones and giggling softly to ourselves.”

Jordan quipped the only massacres in Bowling Green have been some of Western’s football victories.

For Bowling Green radio personality Jelisa Chatman, Conway’s remarks were like a gift from heaven as an on-the-air subject.

“You wake up in the morning and you think, ‘What am I going to talk about today?’” she said. “And God is like, 'Here you go. You need something to talk about, how about this?”

…Friday night, a group of people gathered at a Bowling Green park where they lit candles in remembrance of massacre victims…:smiley:

Wow, someone says the US has 57 states and gets a pass; a Christian calls his faith Moslem and gets a pass; when he says 10,000 dies from a tornado when only 12 died; when he wonders how to say something in Austrian…

Well, he gets a pass.

Conway says something wrong and she is obviously totally and completelynway too incompetent to hold a Cabinet-level position, but the first person I described held a higher position.

People are human and make mistakes. I bet even Conway’s critics have made mistakes. This examining everything the people one disagrees with with a fine-tooth comb while ignoring the gafffes of those who agree smacks of an insane double-standard.

Well this is the aforementioned record on the Iraqis;

And the ABC News story from 2013;

"Suspect in Kentucky Discovered to Have Insurgent Past

An intelligence tip initially led the FBI to Waad Ramadan Alwan, 32, in 2009. **The Iraqi had claimed to be a refugee who faced persecution back home **-- a story that shattered when the FBI found his fingerprints on a cordless phone base that U.S. soldiers dug up in a gravel pile south of Bayji, Iraq on Sept. 1, 2005. The phone base had been wired to unexploded bombs buried in a nearby road.

An ABC News investigation of the flawed U.S. refugee screening system, which was overhauled two years ago, showed that Alwan was mistakenly allowed into the U.S. and resettled in the leafy southern town of Bowling Green, Kentucky, a city of 60,000 which is home to Western Kentucky University and near the Army’s Fort Knox and Fort Campbell. Alwan and another Iraqi refugee, Mohanad Shareef Hammadi, 26, were resettled in Bowling Green even though both had been detained during the war by Iraqi authorities, according to federal prosecutors."

So Kelly Ann misspoke, and that was all the leftist, progressives needed to destroy her and her statement. And the sheep just keep right on following. Amazing.

Where were you when the Bowling Green Massacre never happened?

Still shaking my head how “44” got away with his 57-state gaffe; as GWB was raked over the coals for a lot less.

Just shows how whether you get away with something or not is governed by your position WRT the national spin machine.


Must be that eeeeeeeevil MEDIA again.

You mean like the helicopter that was under fire that wasn’t under fire–HC???

Some people will still bring up how Dan Quayle mis-spelled “potato.”

It is easy to make misfiring mistake like 57 or even have simple gaps in knowledge like potatoe. This is not a simple mistake.

She was in a discussion with Chris Matthews about the rationale for the Trump immigration “ban” and the need to make improvements to our vetting process. We have these arguments here all the time: the vetting process of late 2016 is inadequate because of 9/11, because of Boston, and other non sequiturs.

In this discussion she said, was referring to the six-month “ban” on the Iraqi refugee program after a sting operation thwarted an effort to support overseas terrorists. What she promoted was this idea:

… two Iraqis came here to this country, were radicalized and they were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green massacre."

It is very hard to dismiss this as a slip of the tongue or an innocent factual error. It is essential to the argument, anachronistic as it is, that absent Trump’s action we were seriously at risk of terrorist massacre. She has drunk the kool-aid and it shows.
Most people, I think, would prefer that evidence rather than false-memory informs decision making on national policy.

Funny how that works, isn’t it? If Trump walked on water, the media (and apparently some on this forum) would say “Trump can’t swim.” It is the antics of childish people.

She clearly simply made a mistake, as she added that the event she was referring to was not well-covered by the media. Clearly she could not have been intending to refer to a massacre!

It’s actually very difficult to be on tv like that.

It is difficult, but she does very well on TV. I made my case as to why this is different than “57” or “potatoe”. This is mistake reveals a mindset.

Or how about Al Gore, I invented the internet. Or Bush, Fool me once, There’s an old saying in Tennessee - I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can’t get fooled again. Gotta laugh :smiley:

How small slip ups can be so devastating. It certainly impacted Qualye and Gore chances to be elected back in another era. Today with all the misstatements from Trump during his campaign, it had no impact. Perhaps social media affected people’s perspective with all the bullying, trolls and attacks?

In the news, a vigil at Bowling Green for the ‘massacre’ victims:

New Yorkers can be a sentimental — and satirical — bunch.

That’s why it was no surprise that an impromptu vigil was held Friday honoring the Bowling Green massacre victims that never were.

“We’re commemorating the victims of Bowling Green,” said Chris Bauer as he stifled a smile. “It never happened so they were never commemorated.”

Bauer and a handful of others stood near the Lower Manhattan park, holding signs and shouting, “We all are Bowling Green, never remember never forget.”


Sigh. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar…

Hospodi Pomiluj.

Or how about not loosing sight of the fact that two refugees in Bowling Green Kentucky were conspiring to kill Americans, they were caught purchasing weapons to send to al Qaeda

These men came in through the Refugee program … seen as no threat but were part of al Qaeda skilled in IED bomb making and with American blood on their hands …

According to the FBI - there could be dozens more …

So there was no massacre but one may very well have been - if they had not been apprehended …

Its not like the entire Bowling Green episode was just a pipe dream … it just was a massacre that was prevented …

They even had detained one of the men who had beed detained as an insurgent - before he managed to become a “Refugee”

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