Brock Turner’s rape sentence sparks outrage


#1

WDTN:

Brock Turner’s rape sentence sparks outrage

PALO ALTO, California (WDTN) – A former Oakwood swimmer’s six-month jail sentence for raping an unconscious woman is sparking international outrage and the sex offender’s father is adding fuel to the fire.Brock Turner, 20, was sentenced last week in California court after being convicted of sexually assaulting a woman behind a dumpster on Stanford University’s campus in January of 2015.

His punishment, as well as a statement written by his father, Dan Turner, and the victim’s 13-page impact statement are taking the internet by storm.
Dan Turner wrote a statement asking Judge Aaron Persky to be lenient on the 20-year-old’s punishment. He wrote his son’s life will never be what his son worked so hard to achieve and “that is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20 plus years of life.”

Judge Persky sentenced Turner to six months in county jail, plus three years of probation and must register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.
A punishment, far less than the six years in prison prosecutors asked for.

“The sentence does not reflect the seriousness of this case. It does not reflect the true impact of this crime. Not just on the victim as is evident in her eloquent and articulate letter but the entire community,” said prosecutor Alaleh Kianerci.


#2

“that is a steep price to pay for 20 minutes of action out of his 20 plus years of life.”

If we judge crimes by the amount of time it takes to commit them, then the penalty for murder should be even less, considering that it takes only a split second to fire a gun.

Frankly, that is one of the stupidest arguments I’ve ever heard.


#3

The accused Father said that -not the judge. Two people got drunk and now will pay for it for the rest of their lives.


#4

Aaron Hernandez took like about three minutes to kill Odin Lloyd. Although it took about an hour to drive him from his house to a vacant field. Too bad I cannot see my favorite player on the Patriots anymore.


#5

I guess I am in the minority, but this seems to be a balanced sentence for the crime of which this first time offender was sentenced. If anything, I would have thought straight probation and community service, along with having to register, would have been sufficient.


#6

Id like to know the details of the case, I mean, the prosecution was only asking for 6 years, usually rape cases, they ask for much longer, like 20-30 yrs… so Im assuming there are some details withheld.

Having to register for life is a pretty severe penalty in itself too, maybe worse than prison. He will be lucky to get a job at Mcdonalds, his housing choices are going to be very limited as well and unless he moves to the other end of the country this will subsequently follow him for his entire life…that seems pretty darn stiff to me!


#7

For rape?

Are you actually serious?

Should first time murderers also get off easier?


#8

Me too. I’ve heard mixed things about this case – that it was rape, that it was sexual assault – well, what was it? Copping a feel in a subway car is (in my opinion) a punishable sexual assault. By contrast, I think that the definition of rape requires some sort of penetration.

In any case, six months isn’t nearly long enough. And his father is a . . . never mind, gotta keep it charitable here :shrug:


#9

She was penetrated.


#10

Why isnt anyone asking why prosecutors were only asking for 6 years in a rape? Ive looked up other rape cases and usually they ask for at least 15 years, most of the time 20-25 yrs, sometimes, if its violent, they go for 60-70 yrs!

I think you are forgetting how severe LIFETIME registration is, this guy is basically given a life sentence, in that his debt to society will NEVER be paid off, he will still have to answer for this crime in 55 years…see what Im saying?


#11

Poor thing. My heart bleeds. Maybe if he didn’t want to be registered as a sex offender, he should have called this poor girl an ambulance instead of removing her clothes and forcibly penetrating her.

Thank God for the two cyclists who came upon the scene and stopped the assault.


#12

Here are excerpts from the victim impact statement given in court in this case. It’s very important for survivors to have their voices heard.

It begins, “You don’t know me, but you’ve been inside me, and that’s why we’re here today,”

On waking up in the hospital:

I pulled down the hospital pants they had given me, went to pull down my underwear, and felt nothing. I still remember the feeling of my hands touching my skin and grabbing nothing. I looked down and there was nothing. The thin piece of fabric, the only thing between my vagina and anything else, was missing and everything inside me was silenced. I still don’t have words for that feeling … Then, I felt pine needles scratching the back of my neck and started pulling them out my hair.

My clothes were confiscated and I stood naked while the nurses held a ruler to various abrasions on my body and photographed them. The three of us worked to comb the pine needles out of my hair, six hands to fill one paper bag. To calm me down, they said it’s just the flora and fauna, flora and fauna. I had multiple swabs inserted into my vagina and anus, needles for shots, pills, had a Nikon pointed right into my spread legs. I had long, pointed beaks inside me and had my vagina smeared with cold, blue paint to check for abrasions.

After a few hours of this, they let me shower. I stood there examining my body beneath the stream of water and decided, I don’t want my body anymore. I was terrified of it, I didn’t know what had been in it, if it had been contaminated, who had touched it. I wanted to take off my body like a jacket and leave it at the hospital with everything else.

On fighting for herself in the legal system:

When I was told to be prepared in case we didn’t win, I said, I can’t prepare for that. He was guilty the minute I woke up. No one can talk me out of the hurt he caused me. Worst of all, I was warned, because he now knows you don’t remember, he is going to get to write the script. He can say whatever he wants and no one can contest it. I had no power, I had no voice, I was defenseless. My memory loss would be used against me. My testimony was weak, was incomplete, and I was made to believe that perhaps, I am not enough to win this. His attorney constantly reminded the jury, the only one we can believe is Brock, because she doesn’t remember. That helplessness was traumatizing.

On consent:

He said he had asked if I wanted to dance. Apparently I said yes. He’d asked if I wanted to go to his dorm, I said yes. Then he asked if he could finger me and I said yes. Most guys don’t ask, can I finger you? Usually there’s a natural progression of things, unfolding consensually, not a Q and A. But apparently I granted full permission. He’s in the clear. Even in his story, I only said a total of three words, yes yes yes, before he had me half naked on the ground. Future reference, if you are confused about whether a girl can consent, see if she can speak an entire sentence. You couldn’t even do that. Just one coherent string of words. Where was the confusion? This is common sense, human decency.

According to him, the only reason we were on the ground was because I fell down. Note; if a girl falls down help her get back up. If she is too drunk to even walk and falls down, do not mount her, hump her, take off her underwear, and insert your hand inside her vagina. If a girl falls down help her up. If she is wearing a cardigan over her dress don’t take it off so that you can touch her breasts. Maybe she is cold, maybe that’s why she wore the cardigan.

On his testimony:

You said, I want to show people that one night of drinking can ruin a life. A life, one life, yours, you forgot about mine. Let me rephrase for you, I want to show people that one night of drinking can ruin two lives. You and me. You are the cause, I am the effect. You have dragged me through this hell with you, dipped me back into that night again and again. You knocked down both our towers, I collapsed at the same time you did. If you think I was spared, came out unscathed, that today I ride off into sunset, while you suffer the greatest blow, you are mistaken. Nobody wins. We have all been devastated, we have all been trying to find some meaning in all of this suffering. Your damage was concrete; stripped of titles, degrees, enrollment. My damage was internal, unseen, I carry it with me. You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my safety, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today.

To other survivors of sexual assault:

And finally, to girls everywhere, I am with you. On nights when you feel alone, I am with you. When people doubt you or dismiss you, I am with you. I fought everyday for you. So never stop fighting, I believe you. As the author Anne Lamott once wrote, “Lighthouses don’t go running all over an island looking for boats to save; they just stand there shining.” Although I can’t save every boat, I hope that by speaking today, you absorbed a small amount of light, a small knowing that you can’t be silenced, a small satisfaction that justice was served, a small assurance that we are getting somewhere, and a big, big knowing that you are important, unquestionably, you are untouchable, you are beautiful, you are to be valued, respected, undeniably, every minute of every day, you are powerful and nobody can take that away from you. To girls everywhere, I am with you. Thank you.

The entire statement can be read on Buzzfeed.


#13

Thank you for putting the focus where it should be, on the effect this has had on the VICTIM, not on what the rapist will go through.


#14

Then it’s rape. Off with his head. Seriously.

Ditto :thumbsup: What an eloquent statement! The details of the evidence-gathering process are horrifying.


#15

Ridiculous.

Does he expect sympathy after a horrific act of that sort?

I am all for rehabilitation and opportunities for repentance, but saying that registration alone is a severe penalty is simply not true. If anything, he should count himself very, very lucky that he didn’t get more.


#16

:thumbsup:


#17

I feel that such cases also require (temporary, reversible, chemical) castration as part of the deal, just to make sure that they don’t re-offend. :mad:


#18

I guess I’m in the minority a bit too. At face value, it is an outrage – but the point of the criminal system shouldn’t be to punish as much as to correct. Why do we punish? To change behavior. Unless the person is a certain and hopless menace to society, it doesn’t always make sense to put them away for a long, long time.

This is a young guy who did something terrible. I can almost guarantee you that after 6 months in the pen, he’s not going to even dream about assaulting another woman again for the rest of his life. I could be wrong, and I hope I’m not – but getting real prison time is not a slap on the wrist. It will change him.


#19

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I feel so sorry for what this girl has had to go through. I read her statement a few days ago and I thought it was absolutely horrific.

The rapist deserves more than what he got.

Lou


#20

Please re-read the article. He’s not going to “the pen;” he’s going to the county jail. There is a big difference.


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