Buying a Catholic app


#1

I’m not sure if this is the right place to post this. If not, sorry.

I want to buy the iPieta app for my iPod touch. The problem is that I never get any apps other than free ones. I’m 16 and do buy music through my parents’ iTunes account (using my dad’s credit card). I was planning to buy the iPieta app and then just pay my parents the three dollars without saying it’s for an app. However, my brother found out I was going to do this and thinks it’s dishonest. He agrees with me that if I asked my parents if I could buy the app, they would say no, but still thinks it would be wrong for me to buy it without telling them and pay them for it like it’s just some music. (As far as I know, they don’t keep track of how many songs I buy and it’s up to me to pay them back for what I get.)

They’ve already taken away my wifi which has made it extremely difficult for me to pray the Liturgy of the Hours (I had an app for that that was great, but it requires wifi to load the pages) and I’m really frustrated. I don’t want to go against them or do something dishonest, but at the same time, I really feel like the iPieta app would be good for me to have and help me in my faith. It has so much information and there’s so much I want to learn. Often electronics are the only way for me to access this kind of thing about the faith.

What do you guys think? I know God should come first, but is there a way I can do this without dishonoring my parents? Is what I was planning to do really wrong given the circumstances? Thank you!

~lefty22


#2

I cannot really say too much … Ipieta is a great app. I got it myself not that long ago and I very much like how much there is to it. I started Intro. to Devout Life last Sunday thanks to this handy little app :slight_smile:

It’s great that you are willing to pay them for it, but dishonesty I think, is still dishonesty. No matter how we toss the coin. Tell them what you want to buy, an app. That is still be truthful but without going into too much detail as to cause an argument. Maybe? But I certainly cannot recommend you go about things under handedly. Even for something as small as an app. But that’s just my opinion for what it might be worth.

Perhaps your wifi might be back soon. :hug1:


#3

You don't mention why your parents are against these catholic apps. I have iPieta and it is good, as well as Divine Office for LOH.
I think you have to be honest no matter what.
Have you spoken to your priest about it? Until you are of age you may have to stick with using a library. Be strong & know that God will lead you & work all things for good. Pray your parents will have a change of heart, prayer is a powerful approach.
:gopray2:
:knight2:


#4

Thank you both for your replies. :-)

If I tell them I want to buy an app, they will certainly ask what it is and things will spiral downhill quickly from there. I'm not sure exactly why, other than that they seem to be threatened by my interest in Catholicism and I think they feel that I'm becoming "overly" Catholic.

Also, I'd better clarify, iPieta doesn't require wifi, correct? I haven't seen anywhere that it does, but I just want to make sure. I'm crossing my fingers that my dad will let me have wifi back on my iPod this summer (it's not looking too promising, though). The main reason I want it back is so I can load the LotH pages, though I haven't told him that because I'm afraid it will discourage him from giving it back. Probably if I ask about the iPieta app, that will also negatively affect my chances at wifi.

Maybe you're right and I should just stick with using the library. I'm very interested in the papal encyclicals, but they are reference materials so I can't check them out. Also, my parents have asked way too many questions in the past when I've started bringing home St. Augustine and Scott Hahn. If I come home with a copy of the Catechism, they might flip out. :o I guess you guys are right, though, that I really shouldn't just do this behind their backs, even if it is only three stinking dollars.

Thanks for your help. Any other ideas/opinions?

~lefty22


#5

I'm wondering if you could purchase a gift card and make your own itunes account? With their permission only of course. Not sure if you would be able to continue syncing to your dads account though, but then again you say you pay him for all music downloaded right?

Hhhrmm. I find it disparaging that they wouldn't let you grow your faith though, whatever their reasons may be it would probably benefit you to find out why and work from there. I understand your plight somewhat as I sometimes have to explain why I live out my vocation of marriage abiding by Church guidelines to my parents, even though they them selves are Catholic :eek:


#6

I was going to suggest an itunes card and their own account earlier this morning before going to the doctor. But I wasn’t sure if you needed to have a credit card on file to do that. Most likely not. But yes, I agree with their permission, since you still need to have the ability to download the app and without wifi that might be difficult. Plus one shouldn’t really go behind their parents back.

I too Frank have to often explain going to Church every Sunday, not eating meat on Fridays, etc to my family despite them also being Catholic. All fallen away Catholics though. It’s only this January I myself returned. Perhaps that’s whats makes mine wonder after I’d been away so long. :shrug: Either way, I hope (and pray) that by them seeing my daughter and myself saying Grace before meals, goes to mass on Sundays and Holy days, that it might encourage them to return. Or at least make them a little curious. I know I have piqued an interest in my niece and nephew! So maybe, one day, God willing, my family might too come home. :smiley:


#7

@mom2em :thumbsup:


#8

Dear God, these parents don’t know how lucky they are!!! Here is a young man (lady) wanting to download a CATHOLIC app on a phone!!! Not porn!!! And they are unhappy about it???

Most teens rip off music and if any sneaking downloading is done, it sure ain’t Catholic!!!

Can I trade problems with your parents, lefty??? In 5 minutes, they’d be buying you the app!

:rolleyes:

Hang in there, they cannot take your faith away from you, ever! You can pray anywhere, any time. God bless you lefty.


#9

Well, yeah, the problem with getting my own account would be all the questions... aka "why can't you just continue using ours?" And since I have no good reason to not be able to, I would guess that wouldn't get very far. I think I'm going to try to ask them for permission to buy the app. I'm nervous and I'm afraid I'm just setting myself up for a nice argument and a load of frustration on my end, but I guess sooner or later I have to really start acting on my faith, rather than hiding it all the time.

TheRealJuliane, yes, it's ironic, isn't it? I'm afraid to ask my parents about getting a Catholic app, terrified to ask them about going to daily mass... and they don't realize how easily things could be a lot different. I wish you /could/ trade problems with them for a day or a week; I've read some of your posts and yeah, my parents just have no idea. Know at least that I'm praying for you and your son. :-)

Oh, and this is a slightly unrelated topic, but I'm wondering about it: I lie to my parents about what I'm doing on the computer. I'll be looking up something about Catholicism or doing something on CAF when they come upstairs (they have no clue I'm a member and I intend to keep it that way, because CAF has been a haven for me and allowed me to explore new ideas and ask questions openly without having to worry about them reading and judging me). Often they'll ask me what I'm doing and I'll quickly switch tabs and windows and answer "sending so-and-so an email" or "writing" or "looking up this or that." I know it's dishonest and I don't like doing it, but at the same time, I feel like I can't let them know about CAF or my other Catholic web browsings. What can I do? I'm not really sure how to handle it.

Thanks!


#10

[quote="lefty22, post:9, topic:243380"]

Oh, and this is a slightly unrelated topic, but I'm wondering about it: I lie to my parents about what I'm doing on the computer. I'll be looking up something about Catholicism or doing something on CAF when they come upstairs (they have no clue I'm a member and I intend to keep it that way, because CAF has been a haven for me and allowed me to explore new ideas and ask questions openly without having to worry about them reading and judging me). Often they'll ask me what I'm doing and I'll quickly switch tabs and windows and answer "sending so-and-so an email" or "writing" or "looking up this or that." I know it's dishonest and I don't like doing it, but at the same time, I feel like I can't let them know about CAF or my other Catholic web browsings. What can I do? I'm not really sure how to handle it.

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That's tricky. It's always sad when a child feels like there can't share an important part of their life with their parents - I know my mother doesn't know I'm on CAF or know about my studies of Catholicism. I don't hide them from her, but I never told her either. I did used to switch sites when my mother came in my room, like you do. Is there a way you could use those sites only when your parents are not around? I'm guessing you don't have your own computer? I was always lucky I had my own laptop so I could keep things to myself more.

In terms of the original question, buying the gift cards is a good way of keeping your parents out of it. You could just propose the idea to them, saying it might be easier than you constantly having to pay them back and it helps you understand your spending better.


#11

iPieta does not require wifi except for the initial download & if there is an update. I have it on both my touch & my iPad. The gift card is a good idea.
One of the things on iPieta is a bible so if they are not completely anti-Christian, surely they would be ok with that.
Anyway, hang in there keep praying, honor your parents while in there home & seek a pastor who can support you.
Ask our Father what he is trying tom teach you. Perhaps a virtue. It will be ok. :thumbsup:


#12

Lefty, I think you need to have a serious talk with your parents. I would ask them how they would feel if you wanted to download pornography. Ask this without getting excited or angry. Then ask them why they would want to take something away from you which is not harmful but is bringing you closer to God, if they are Catholic or Protestant. I can't remember if you have said anything about your parents in the past. Most importantly, pray for them and pray for them some more. If you can go to a library then go there and look up what you need. If you can bring a notebook and write down you favorite prayers you find online so you can pray them when you get home. You can read books there as well if your parents are really that angry that you are reading books on Catholicism. We have to honor our parents but if they are taking you away from God then you need to put God first, I'm not telling you to lie and if they press you tell them you are going to the library to learn more about the Catholic faith. Fight the fight, finish the race, have faith. You will always have challenges with your faith from parents, to friends, to yourself, and many other distractions but if you keep Christ as your center I promise you be happy in the end. God bless


#13

iTunes sends an email receipt to the account-holder every week that you purchase something, even if the purchase is a ‘free’ app. If your mom/dad receives and checks the receipt (maybe they don’t), they will already know you’ve ordered iBreviary and other things.

Sorry to hear about your difficulty … my parents are similarly suspicious but I’m a bit older (26 now) and I just ignore them. The few times my mum raises the subject in a provocative way, I just explain exactly what I think about the Faith. She’s from the 1970s catechesis generation, so doesn’t really understand JP2, Benedict, or orthodox Catholicism. Being exposed to it when she prods me about book purchases seems to make her so uncomfortable that she doesn’t really bring it up any more, leaving me to get on with it.


#14

Well, I thought about the gift card idea, but ultimately that still felt a little dishonest to me, so I went ahead and asked my mom if I could buy the app. The answer is still pending lol. Probably I would have been better off asking my dad, because my mom’s first question was “how do these app things work?” I explained, went on iTunes and showed her the app description, let her read the reviews, even downloaded a random app so she could see how they worked (yeah, so I kind of ignored the fact that I already have the Divine Mercy app that I could have showed her…).

She’s hesitant, but she wasn’t nasty about it. She wanted to know if the app had accurate information, if I was a die-hard Catholic (that was a response to a review that said the app is a must-have for any die-hard Catholic), and I found myself explaining parts of the app to her. All in all, she wants to read more reviews and she says she’ll give it some thought, which I seriously hope doesn’t mean talking to my dad about it, though it probably does. She told me to be patient with her and I said I’d do my best. So, we’ll see I guess. It could have gone much worse, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for now.

Either way, I just wanted to say thanks for all your help and advice. If I end up not being allowed to get the app, hopefully I’ll be able to find some of the saints’ works and things at the library. In the end it’s all about God anyway, and my parents can’t separate me from Him. :slight_smile:


#15

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