California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

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California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs
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...Reporting from Sacramento — California welfare recipients are able to use state-issued debit cards to withdraw cash on gaming floors in more than half of the casinos in the state, a Los Angeles Times review of records found.

The cards, provided by the Department of Social Services to help recipients feed and clothe their families, work in automated teller machines at 32 of 58 tribal casinos and 47 of 90 state-licensed poker rooms, the review found.

State officials said Wednesday they were working to determine how much money had been withdrawn from casino ATMs by people using the welfare debit cards...

***Some Welfare Recipients have more money than they need when this is happening, that's for sure.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn***

[quote="DawnInTexas, post:1, topic:203134"]
******State officials said Wednesday they were working to determine how much money had been withdrawn from casino ATMs by people using the welfare debit cards...

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I don't care if the card is used in a 7-11 ATM. Why are they getting access to cash? If this card is intended to be used only for food and clothing, why even allow cash withdrawals? Even if California banned ATM use in casino's, people can stop at the local quickie mart before heading to the casino.

CA will probably come to Congress for a bailout - due to their waste, extravegance, not wanting to offend Unions, lack of protecting their border, etc.

Guess who will get to pay their bills ?

I agree that cash withdrawals should not be allowed. Some people keep spending their family's food money on gambling, cigarettes, and alcohol. :eek:

I do like the new CWEX program. If you get food stamps or welfare you have to join CWEX--community work experience (at least in my area, I don't know about other places). This helps people find jobs so they can start working again. Unfortunately, these programs don't always lead to a person being hired, and sometimes they have to go through several assignments before they finally get a paying job. But at least they are doing something with their life and trying to support their families, not just staying home and living off the state for years and years. :thumbsup:

Think on the positive side; If they win big, they'll be off the welfare roles for good.

[quote="Suudy, post:2, topic:203134"]
I don't care if the card is used in a 7-11 ATM. Why are they getting access to cash? If this card is intended to be used only for food and clothing, why even allow cash withdrawals? Even if California banned ATM use in casino's, people can stop at the local quickie mart before heading to the casino.

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I agree. It should be used to buy food only. My card for my unemployment pay last year was to be used on bills only and could not be used for cash.

I believe that not only should it be prevented for getting cash at an ATM but also prevented to purchase junk foods. Should be used to buy vegetables, fruits, breads and meat only.

[quote="josephdavid, post:6, topic:203134"]
I agree. It should be used to buy food only. My card for my unemployment pay last year was to be used on bills only and could not be used for cash.

I believe that not only should it be prevented for getting cash at an ATM but also prevented to purchase junk foods. Should be used to buy vegetables, fruits, breads and meat only.

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I think it'd be kind of tough to tell people how to spend their money from the state and particularly what kind of food to eat.

You left out an important link in the food chain ; most people (children especially since they need these products to be healthy) enjoy having dairy products such as eggs, milk etc or perhaps a nice hot cup of coffee in the morning before going out to look for work or perhaps some mustard on their hotdog or hamburger.

Come to think of it they might want to brush their teeth afterwards so when they smile you can't see the moss on their teeth.

Don't forget, it might help them if they can pay their telephone bill so they can make use of it while looking for employment afterall the goal is to get these fine people back into the workforce so i'm sure you'd agree that having access to items such as a telephone, postage stamps, gas for their car, money for cleaning bills so they can look presentable at job interviews etc isn't such a bad idea.

The thust of the post is that they should spend the money as they see best fit; and when its gone, its gone. Are there going to be abuses of the system? of course, and when you catch them in the act; then you take action to rectify the situation..

[quote="gamewell45, post:7, topic:203134"]
I think it'd be kind of tough to tell people how to spend their money from the state and particularly what kind of food to eat.

You left out an important link in the food chain ; most people (children especially since they need these products to be healthy) enjoy having dairy products such as eggs, milk etc or perhaps a nice hot cup of coffee in the morning before going out to look for work or perhaps some mustard on their hotdog or hamburger.

Come to think of it they might want to brush their teeth afterwards so when they smile you can't see the moss on their teeth.

Don't forget, it might help them if they can pay their telephone bill so they can make use of it while looking for employment afterall the goal is to get these fine people back into the workforce so i'm sure you'd agree that having access to items such as a telephone, postage stamps, gas for their car, money for cleaning bills so they can look presentable at job interviews etc isn't such a bad idea.

The thust of the post is that they should spend the money as they see best fit; and when its gone, its gone. Are there going to be abuses of the system? of course, and when you catch them in the act; then you take action to rectify the situation..

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I agree in partial. If you take money from the state (via the tax payer) they have the right to tell you how to spend it. I agree that the money should be used for bills, gas, stamps. But one can survive without going to a casino or eating junk food. Eggs and dairy products are part of good nutrition. But soda, potato chips, candy, ice cream, pizza are not. Vast majority of people who need state / federal assistance (food, housing, unemployment) are there because of some sort of misfortune but there still has to be some sort of personal responsibility.

[quote="josephdavid, post:8, topic:203134"]
I agree in partial. If you take money from the state (via the tax payer) they have the right to tell you how to spend it. I agree that the money should be used for bills, gas, stamps. But one can survive without going to a casino or eating junk food. Eggs and dairy products are part of good nutrition. But soda, potato chips, candy, ice cream, pizza are not. Vast majority of people who need state / federal assistance (food, housing, unemployment) are there because of some sort of misfortune but there still has to be some sort of personal responsibility.

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Likewise I agree with you partially as well.

In some cases, many of these people on welfare/unemployment have paid into the system before losing their jobs, so in some aspects, they have a vested interest in that money too.

Furthermore, its next to impossible to micro manage what people can buy or not buy food wise; what we think might be junk food to others might be considered a delicacy to them. I don't think anyone has any right to tell a parent what they can give their child food-wise. historically in our country the parents have always made to decision as to what too feed their children. Once you start dictating to parents what food they can buy and can't buy, especially for their children, it would cause a huge uproar; What politician would want to tackle that issue? its a sure way to find your self out of a job come next election.

Finally, as I mentioned in an earlier post here, its plausible that you'll find people who abuse the system; those are the ones who need to be caught and dealt wiith in the courts.

Spurred by a newspaper's report that California's welfare debit cards can be used to withdraw cash in more than half the casinos in the state, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday issued an immediate ban on state-provided cash assistance at ATMs in gambling establishments.

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