Campus Apologetics


I have a question with regard to the apologetics on campus. It seems that there are more than one or two young folks out there who have time to be involved in discussing/defending their beliefs on campus. It has been many years since I was first a student and then a grad student, but it seemed in those days(late 50’s early 60’s) we didn’t have time to get into a lot of that type of discussion. Are students no longer advised to spend a minimum of three hours of outside study for each hour of lecture? With a load of 18 credits per semester that meant 72 hours of time out of a week, more if one had science labs. What has changed? I am not being critical, just curious. :confused:


I am a student at the moment. Full time students do 24 units of credit per semester, and are encouraged to do 1 hour of study for every hour of class, making it 48 hours per week. This means 24 more hours a week of free time than students had in the 50’s, if they followed your given formula.

I’m not sure if students are just lazier these days and unis have compesated, or if better teaching methods today mean that students need less study, or if unis decided that students need more free time, or etc.

The thing is, it hasn’t seemed to mean a higher quality of life for uni students these days, it hasn’t seemed to mean they learn more, and considering they have more time for apologetics, it hasn’t seemed to mean that they are more faithful to their religion. Maybe the old folks are right and the ‘old way’ really was better.


The whole subject fascinates me.

I was a college student in the mid-sixties.
Here was the “schedule”.
4 courses per semester [4 credits each, met 4 times per week.]
school work [classes or study or research] Sunday
afternoon thru late Friday afternoon. [There was
*no way you could get the papers written, exams
passed without doing this level of work.]
Memorize meant memorize…not have a vague
Required courses in World Literature, World History,
Philosophy , Theology, science, mathematics,
languages…no matter what the major was.
[And, since I started in chemistry, there were labs
that needed to be done, on top of the papers and

Part of the idea, behind this, was to develop the
ability to hold an intelligent discussion, in any
of those fields, while not majoring in same.
To look at any issue, presented in life, and have
some knowledge to draw on, not limited by the
mind-set of our own time.

[The idea that the “sixties” was solely protest, to me,
is nonsense.]

And yet, I look at what I was required to learn, and
compare that with what was required in 1910, and
I laugh. No knowledge of Greek or Latin required!

And, when I was handed a diploma, [Philosophy major]
the dominant emotion was gratitude…for, as a
result of this education, I now knew how much I didn’t
know! It was a stunning realization.

Still, looking back, there would have been time to
be involved in campus ministry, I suppose. But
one would have had to have been super "organized"
to do that - and complete the requirements of papers
due, exams to be taken.

With all that, I never learned to…spell. :o

And the* joke*, to me, is - yes, everyone is “entitled
to their opinion”…but one may forget that I am entitled
to assess what that opinion is* based* on [knowledge]
before making a decision as to whether or not to
"accept" this “opinion” as having any validity, in
terms of the reality.]


PS I’m not certain of this, but I think we were only
allowed 2 or 3 cuts per class per semester!
And, despite the Literature requirements, I am
abysmally ignorant in this area of knowledge.
“Ignorant” in the accurate sense of the term =
a simple lack of knowledge.*


Oh, and one final point.

The idea was to equip the student with sufficient
information so that said student could "frame"
an intelligent question - in several areas of
knowledge…so that learning could continue,
well after formal studies had ended.

My hat is off, to the college I attended, for
the faculty did a fine job and I am grateful. :tiphat:



I started college in the 60s, 19 credit hours, work study 20 hrs a week, plus 12 hours language lab for my intensive program, but what I remember most is long discussions n any and every topic, arguments on politics, the war, French culture, movies, religion, philosophy, books, music, deeply importand issues and nonsensical ones-just like the topics we chew up on these forums.


Hi, puzzleannie,

quote: puzzleannie

I started college in the 60s, 19 credit hours, work study 20 hrs a week, plus 12 hours language lab for my intensive program…

For me it was “Hello, student loan!” :smiley: plus working
summers and a little work-study. [Had to pay my
own way, as many did, I think.]
What gets me is, the tuition for the first year was $800.
and $100 for textbooks, total.
[Of course, minimum wage then was $1.65 hour]

*Those *were the days! :slight_smile:



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