Can a Catholic be Democrat?

Once again, daring to criticize President Trump results in being branded a Democrat.

It never fails.

His ego is too big to make stuff up in order to make himself look better?

I’ll have to let someone else break the truth to you on that one…

I didn’t brand you anything,

in politics, truth is clouded by opinion.

And there is being an independent. best IMO.

As Catholics, yes you can vote for whoever you want. You should vote according to your Catholic beliefs. If you vote for one democratic candidate, it does not make you a democrat.

Should Catholics be democrats? Should Catholics be republican? Should Catholics identify themselves with a political party instead of by their faith? If someone claims to be Catholic, shouldn’t it be no question how they would vote on key issues? How can one register with the state to either political party that does not uphold those key values & beliefs?

That’s all I’m saying. I meant no disrespect to the true democrats out there.

“In that sense, yes, a Catholic could of course register as a Democrat or a Republican or a Libertarian or anything else, because you’re still free to vote your conscience”

Great point! Maybe vernacular is my problem. I do think Catholics should vote their conscience too! That’s a freedom in the church, that we’re not forced to all vote the same way. However, my issue is being a registered democrat, OR a registered republican. My identity should be defined by my faith, not by a political party that i register to that disagrees with my faith on major key issues.

When someone asks, “Are you a Democrat? Are you a Republican?” The response should be, “I am Catholic.” With all that it implies.

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We can, but for obvious reasons shouldn’t.

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Can a Catholic be Democrat. The title of this threat seems to indicate that Democrats can’t be Catholic.
All I am saying is that there are other issues beside abortion. As I said before, I do not like abortion, but I will use my vote going towards how I feel that candidates stands on a variety of issues.

I disagree with the thought that the Trump administration is good for the environment, He has eviscerated the EPA.

That’s not accurate. The Democratic party has been active in reducing the incidence of abortion. That’s not even debatable.

You know, stating that under our Constitution abortion is legal is not killing anyone or being pro-abortion. Many folks refuse to remember this.

Where? When?

The original Roe v. Wade said that the government could regulate abortion to its heart’s content in the third trimester, so long as it included exceptions for a woman’s life. That’s the strictest the Supreme Court has ever ruled in regards to abortion, and even that one allowed for the banning late-term (third trimester) abortions, with the life/health exception. I suppose someone could say that that means a full ban isn’t possible, but let’s face it, any abortion law passed (even after a complete Roe v. Wade overturn) is going to include that exception, so it doesn’t really matter.

The later Planned Parenthood v. Casey scaled this back, setting the point not at the third trimester, but viability. So abortion is a constitutional right prior to viability, but not afterwards. This is the standard that has been maintained since. (it also permits regulation prior to viability so long as it does not constitute an “undue burden”, a somewhat arbitrary standard, but at any event those aren’t what we’re currently talking about here)

So I am confused by what definition of “late-term abortions” you are using here. Further, what do you mean by “all the Dem appointees”? Starting at what point? One of the dissenters in the original Roe v. Wade, Justice White, was a Democrat appointee, who also dissented in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (he urged an outright overturn of Roe v. Wade). Perhaps you mean the current Democratic appointees on the Court. But none of them have, to my knowledge, indicated any desire to return to the rules of Roe v. Wade over Planned Parenthood v. Casey, meaning all of them find it acceptable for the government to regulate abortion after the point of viability.

Produce the evidence and we’ll look at it. Support of abortion is even in your party’s platform.

Nowhere does the constitution say that. Legalizing it was invented by the Supreme Court. Supporting politicians who want to keep it legal is being complicit in killing.

Gonzales vs. Carhart, 550 U.S. 124 (2007)

In other words, “abortion on demand”.

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Abortion is unconstitutional. It violates the right to life stated in the constitution, plus Jane Roe or Roe v. Rade lied in order to make the law. The whole abortion industry is based on a lie.

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I certainly don’t support abortion, but where in the Constitution are you looking at?

@Fauken Read article V of the constitution.

“And every person has certain unalienable rights, such as LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

That’s where it is. :slight_smile:

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I’m pretty certain you are actually referring to the Declaration of Independence.

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@Fauken Okay, sorry, you might be right about that, but this is in the constitution.

“nor shall any person be deprived of life” :slight_smile:

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I don’t think any Justice has taken the position that the unborn have Constitutional rights.

That’s not quite the full quote though:

“No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

If what you said was a blanket statement, then the death penalty would be unconstitutional, and considering that certain forms of capital punishment were only ever deemed unconstitutional by the 8th Amendment and not the 5th, then that’s not necessarily the case. The 5th Amendment is talking about a trial, not a general right to life.

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Even if Roe v. Wade isn’t unconstitutional, it contradicts God’s laws and that’s infinity times more important the the US constitution. :slight_smile:

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