[quote="truthseeker32, post:1, topic:322746"]
Universalism is my last stumbling block to conversion to the faith. I can't let it go, and it is not out of fear that I cannot let go. I legitimately believe that the strict non-universalist position is nonsensical.
The common defense of Hell is that it exists as a result of free will. I have no problem with the idea that there is a state of suffering that occurs when one rejects God,
It's not only when one rejects God. There's also mortal sin that if one dies in a mortal sin they go to hell
for a few examples
*]Titus 3: 10 Reject a factious man after a first and second warning, 11knowing that such a man is )perverted and is sinning, being self-condemned.
*]Ephesians 5: 3-5 fornication, covetousness……5 Be sure of this, that no fornicator or impure man, or one who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
*]Hebrews 10:25-26 missing mass deliberately, no sacrifice for sin for THEM but a fiery judgement that consumes the adversaries of God.
*]Hebrews 12: 16 - 17 immoraliy, is selling your inheritance
*]Galatians 5: 19 - 21 sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, will not inherit heaven
*]Colossians 3: 5-6 immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry, ......rath of God is coming
*]1 Corinthians 6: 9 - 10 no sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexual offenders ,ἀρσενοκοίτης *[FONT=Trebuchet MS]arsenokoitēs] *[/FONT]10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
[/LIST]One therefore doesn't want to die with any of these sins on their soul. That's why Jesus gave us the sacrament of confession / penance.
There's that door He leaves open. :)
Angels are creatires. They are made immortal just like us. Immortal means there is a beginning, but no end. The angels had their probationary period and apparantly 1/3 of them failed their test, Lucifer and the others, got wiped out of the ranks. When the trial period ended, the angelic ranks advanced to the beatific vision, and no more tests. The fallen angels we call demons, have for all eternity, seperation from God in hell.
Humans have an immortal soul, and we have a probationary period. It's this life. Each person has their own specific life. While we're being tested, God always leaves the door of salvation open. But when our time here is up, and the test is over, there is heaven and the beatific vision, or it's hell, Just like the angels.
Can one be an orthodox Catholic and believe that Hell may be empty or temporary?
God doesn't scare people for no reason. He's not like that. Turn it around. Is heaven empty? or mererly temporary?
What good is a test if there is no right and wrong answers? If everybody that ever lived gets transported to heaven when they die, that in my view wouldn't be heaven. We believe what we believe because of Divine Revelation. There is no use believing in things that aren't true. Don't give parking space in your head for things that aren't true. OTOH, one wants to believe everything that is true. Hell exists, do everything in your power to avoid it.