Canadian police pull over entire Mini convoy

Every year, the Southern Ontario Mini Club organizes two charity drives – one in the Spring and one in the Fall. Over time, the event has grown from a handful of participating cars to over 30, and as such, this year the organizers let local law enforcement know where the caravan would be and when it would be there as a courtesy. So far, so good, right? Not exactly.

During the first part of the drive, the convoy ran into a few members of the Ontario Provincial Police without incident. One officer even went so far as to tell the organizers that there was only one other patrol for the rest of the route. Turns out that wasn't quite true.

Instead of providing an escort for the convoy or thanking the organizers for a heads up, the OPP set up a speed trap along the route where the limit changes from 100 km/h to 90 km/h. When the parade of Minis came past, officers pulled over the whole lot, and cited three cars for going 121-123 kmh in a 90 kmh zone, or about 76 in a 55. One driver was also cited for having a radar detector and had his equipment confiscated.

autoblog.com/2010/05/01/canadian-police-pull-over-entire-mini-convoy/#comments

This is wrong. No wonder, people hate cops. Look for their charity fund-raising to go down.

Were you one of the drivers?

Should they have been given the green light to break the law just because they were doing something for charity? Guess I can go rob the convenience store down the road and give the money to the Red Cross.

They were well over the speed limit even before the zone change so I'm not crying in my coffee for them. And the driver with the radar detector? He's well aware they're illegal (and obviously not working too well in this case) so no tears for him either.

[quote="MugenOne, post:1, topic:196961"]
Every year, the Southern Ontario Mini Club organizes two charity drives – one in the Spring and one in the Fall. Over time, the event has grown from a handful of participating cars to over 30, and as such, this year the organizers let local law enforcement know where the caravan would be and when it would be there as a courtesy. So far, so good, right? Not exactly.

During the first part of the drive, the convoy ran into a few members of the Ontario Provincial Police without incident. One officer even went so far as to tell the organizers that there was only one other patrol for the rest of the route. Turns out that wasn't quite true.

Instead of providing an escort for the convoy or thanking the organizers for a heads up, the OPP set up a speed trap along the route where the limit changes from 100 km/h to 90 km/h. When the parade of Minis came past, officers pulled over the whole lot, and cited three cars for going 121-123 kmh in a 90 kmh zone, or about 76 in a 55. One driver was also cited for having a radar detector and had his equipment confiscated.

autoblog.com/2010/05/01/canadian-police-pull-over-entire-mini-convoy/#comments

This is wrong. No wonder, people hate cops. Look for their charity fund-raising to go down.

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Cry me a river.76 in a 55mph is seriously speeding especially in a convoy.I'm glad you were caught the polezi were doing their job-kudos to them.By the way if you are Canadian you KNOW radar detectors are illegal in this country_besides which they don't work against lasers which is what most cops use in Canada.He's lucky it was only confiscated.Possession usually results in an arrest and a huge fines.At every border crossing there are HUGE signs regarding the illegality of radar detectors.Check out the site he quotes to see some of the "informed"comments121 in a 100km zone is also over the limit.If it went down to 90km it went down for a reason-houses nearby etc.You were speeding,had an illegal device in one of your cars and you dare to complain?No sympathy-glad you were caught.

Hey, I’m perfectly willing to criticise cops but 20 mph over the limit? Puh-leeze! You guys are the jerks here. Pay your fines and go back to your cars.

Am I missing something here?

Were they speeding?
Was the signs posted for the speed limit?
Was there children in the convoy?
Was there an illegal radar detector?

I might be wrong but, I don’t see the strawman argument that because they were involved in charity raising event - that it excuses the breaking of laws.

If they were 5 kmh over the speed limit - it might garner a little empathy from me…but 20?

AND if children were in those cars…

Main highways are 100km/h=60mph,secondary highways are 80km/h=50mph to 60km/h

I have never heard of a 90km/h limit in Canada ANYWHERE.Speed limits are ALWAYS posted.If a speed limit ISN"T posted its within a city’s limits where the speed limit is a MAXIMUM of 50k/h=30 mph.Case of sour grapes.

So, if the speed limit were still 100, they would have been going 21 and 23 km/hr over the speed limit.

However, the speed limit changed to 90, which put their speed 31 and 33 km/hr over the speed limit.

I wasn’t aware that one was allowed to lawfully travel at both 23 and 33 km/hr over the speed limit.

One driver was also cited for having a radar detector and had his equipment confiscated.

Radar detectors are prohibited devices in the province of Ontario…a driver MAY NOT possess a radar detector while using any road in all of Ontario. Seizure of Radar detectors by the police is both lawful and authorized by the law.

This is wrong. No wonder, people hate cops.

Quite the contrary, people actually like Police Officers. If you hate someone, why would you trust that person?

In Canada, Police Officers rank as the public’s 7th most trusted profession, with 81% of Citizens trusting the police.

readersdigest.ca/mag/cms/xcms/other-facts-about-canada-s-most-trusted_2749_a.html

angus-reid.com/polls/view/11338

What’s your grievance? People on fund raising drives don’t have to follow the rules of the road? :shrug:

To the OP, you actually left out a very important part of the story;

"Once the station had the film, they broadcast a story claiming that 11 of the Mini drivers had been arrested for doing 50 kmh over the speed limit and that they had their vehicles confiscated as a result. Even worse, the story claimed that some of the Mini drivers had their children with them and that the OPP had called the Canadian equivalent of child services on the parents."
:rotfl:

If you're going to drum up support for these drivers and still claim that the public hates police officers, at least include the part of the story that had 11 of the drivers going over 50 km/hr over the speed limit!!!

( For you Americans, that 31 mph over the limit)

THANK YOU O.P.P. I hope the judge throws the book at them in court. For those of you who don't know, in Ontario, if you go 50 km/hr over the limit, the police can't even give you a ticket, they send you straight to court and Judge determines the fine and length of licence suspension.

[quote="Soutane, post:6, topic:196961"]
Main highways are 100km/h=60mph,secondary highways are 80km/h=50mph to 60km/h

I have never heard of a 90km/h limit in Canada ANYWHERE.Speed limits are ALWAYS posted.If a speed limit ISN"T posted its within a city's limits where the speed limit is a MAXIMUM of 50k/h=30 mph.Case of sour grapes.

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There are zones of 110 km/h in many provinces

Many rural parts of the Trans Canada Highway are 90 km/h zones.

OW, that bites!! :stuck_out_tongue:

This is wrong. No wonder, people hate cops. Look for their charity fund-raising to go down.

First, you don’t just “give the cops a heads up” and then go ahead with your event - you need permission for this kind of thing.

Second, who was in charge, and how were the minis allowed to exceed the speed limit by so much? :confused:

I have been in processions, and believe me, the organizers of the processions I was in were real sticklers - if you did not obey the law exactly to the letter, they would send you home.

If you carefully read what you quoted you’ll realize that the author twice uses the word “claiming” to indicate that while the news report said this, it was not true. Careful reading of the article shows that the news report was constructed in such a way as to convey that the MINIs had all been the ones involved when such was not the case. The video was removed from the station’s website after complaints.

This was a blitz that had been in place for a few hours before the convoy showed up (based on comments from a driver who claims to have driven through about 2 hours before the convoy and the OPP were there at that time stopping cars). The 50 km/h over the speed limit & the calling of child services may well have happened during the blitz but it had nothing to do with the MINIs.

[quote="jmcrae, post:10, topic:196961"]

First, you don't just "give the cops a heads up" and then go ahead with your event - you need permission for this kind of thing.

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You need permission to gather with your friends and go for a drive in legally registered vehicles? This was a convoy, not a parade. I don't know of any law that prevents 30 cars from leaving one spot and following each other down a highway at regular speed -- even if they are all the same make.

I think the event is a great idea. It is a shame they didn't just go the correct speed and avoided all this mess.

Oh, and most law-abiding citizens do not hate cops. Most law-abiding citizens depend on police to protect public safety.

It's lucky they weren't doing 50 mph over the limit or they would have forfeited their vehicles permanently and would have been fined $10,000,apiece.We love cops in Ontariariario,nothing gives me greater pleasure than to see a cop pull over a monster Dodge truck with a gigantic engine and catching the chagrin on the face of the driver who is INVARIABLY wearing a baseball cap.

If I'm not mistaken street racers and stunters(after due process)have their cars towed to the wreckers where they must WITNESS their personal rocket ship being compacted into a 3x3 foot square of metal and plastic and you can be guaranteed that these miscreants still owe THOUSANDS of dollars on their gigantic paperweight.

No one has the right to endanger me,you or our children on our Highways.Throw the book at them.

[quote="Phemie, post:11, topic:196961"]
If you carefully read what you quoted you'll realize that the author twice uses the word "claiming" to indicate that while the news report said this, it was not true

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I'm to believe a police officer in the Province of Ontario, while under the watchful eye of the media ( remember, the police inviting them to watch the blitz) would be willing to risk their jobs, benefits, pensions and reputations....all for fabricating evidence that mini drivers were going 50 + km/hr over the limit. Not just one officer, but an entire squad of officers....oh boy, gotta love the cop haters and their zeal for finding corruption where there is none.

This was a blitz that had been in place for a few hours before the convoy showed up (based on comments from a driver who claims to have driven through about 2 hours before the convoy and the OPP were there at that time stopping cars). The 50 km/h over the speed limit & the calling of child services may well have happened during the blitz but it had nothing to do with the MINIs.

Regardless, some minis were clocked going 33 km/hr over the limit, had a radar detection device and allegedly, 11 minis were going 50 km/hr over the limit.

This is exactly why I pay taxes, so that the police can get dangerous and reckless drivers off the road.

[quote="Zatzat, post:16, topic:196961"]
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I'm to believe a police officer in the Province of Ontario, while under the watchful eye of the media ( remember, the police inviting them to watch the blitz) would be willing to risk their jobs, benefits, pensions and reputations....all for fabricating evidence that mini drivers were going 50 + km/hr over the limit. Not just one officer, but an entire squad of officers....oh boy, gotta love the cop haters and their zeal for finding corruption where there is none.

I never said that the police fabricated anything. AFAIC, they were doing their job.

Regardless, some minis were clocked going 33 km/hr over the limit, had a radar detection device and allegedly, 11 minis were going 50 km/hr over the limit.

No, that's the spin the TV station put on it -- erroneously.

This is exactly why I pay taxes, so that the police can get dangerous and reckless drivers off the road.

That's why I pay taxes too, though not in Ontario.

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