[quote="The_John, post:3, topic:289315"]
I understand your reply - but I believe they are okay...
This is why
If two non catholics got married in lets say a Baptist Church - and then one of them converted to Catholicism, went through RCIA, got confirmed into the church...
I believe the Catholic Church would recognize their marriage just as they would have before one of them converted.
In this situation, both were baptized,[in the Catholic Church...correct?] at least one confirmed, both at the time of marriage they were not practicing catholic's -- in this case - I believe the sacrament of confession would be needed and perhaps some spiritual direction.
I am looking for a concrete answer if their is one - or is this up to the local bishop?
By Canon law they are not married...if one was a baptized Catholic...and married outside the Catholic Church without their Bishop's dispensation/permission...practicing or not...they are not married. If I understand this scenario correctly. If I do...they need Sacramental Confession and Con validation of their civil marriage.
Re: Catholic Marriage question
They left the unity of the Catholic Church, so Confession would usually be required.
Otherwise,** the Church accepts their marriage** (according to your description), just as it would accept the marriage of two protestants.
They may have their marriage blessed, but this is not required. A blessing is like a very simple wedding.
They would not need to live apart unless there was reasonable grounds to doubt the validity of their marriage. The fact that it was done in a protestant church does not, in itself, constitute such grounds.
This canonical right/law was changed (26 Oct 2009) by Pope B-XVI...specifically, the Catholic Church does not recognize or grant a canonical right or confirmation that someone can be/or is removed from their Catholic Church/Faith...and be considered no longer Catholic...i.e.,...once Catholic always Catholic...so Dave's link to Father Serpa's answer...is OBE..."overcome by events"...i.e. Pope B-XVI's change in Canon Law.
Here is link to
AN APOSTOLIC LETTER GIVEN MOTU PROPRIO
OMNIUM IN MENTEM
BY WHICH CHANGES ARE MADE IN THE CODE OF CANON LAW
Currently the *Code of Canon Law provides that those believers, who “by a formal act” [actu formali] have defected from the Church, are not bound by the ecclesiastical laws
concerning the canonical form of Marriage (confer Canon 1117), concerning dispensation
from the impediment of disparity of cult (confer c. 1086), or concerning the permission
Trequired to enter into a mixed marriage (confer c. 1124). * The reason for this exception to the general norm of canon 11 was to avoid the nullity of marriages contracted by those faithful due to defective canonical form or the disparity of cult impendiment.
Having taken all those things into account, and having carefully considered the opinions
of the fathers of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and of the Pontifical
Council for Legal Texts, as well as the opinions of the Episcopal Conferences that were
consulted as to the pastoral utility of keeping or abrogating this exception from the
general norm of canon 11, it seems** necessary to abolish this rule that was introduced into the body of canonical laws currently in force**.
Thus we declare that the following words in the same Code of Canon Law must be
removed: “and has not by a formal act defected from it” [neque actu formali ab ea
defecerit] from c. 1117; “and has not by a formal act defected from it” [nec actu formali
ab ea defecerit] from c. 1086 § 1; and “and [who] has not defected from it by a formal
act” [quæque nec ab ea actu formali defecerit] from c. 1124