TexanKnight, if one pre-supposes that the LDS prophets are wrong and if fact not prophets, then I suppose under your reasoning that one is to believe that Christ is guiding his church through Catholic Popes.
Not at all. I never said that because LDS prophets are false, then Popes must be guiding. They ate two separate ideas.
A Pope is not the same as a prophet. I agree. As a member of the LDS faith, I have substantially more difficulty believing that Christ is guiding his church via Popes then LDS Prophets.
Really? Why is that?
Even if I was not LDS I would have this difficulty. I personally view the blacks and LDS priesthood issue (that was talked about on another thread and is where this thread is coming from) as a misinterpretation
And you were proven wrong, even by using the incredibly racist comments by past LDS “prophets”, or did you ignore those quotes?
I understand that others can see it as more problematic. However, I see this as significantly less of an issue when it is compared to what was done by past Popes.
There you go again, comparing the actions of people who claim to speak to God face to face with those who don’t. You are doing exactly what I expected…it is the typical fallback position for Mormons who try to deflect the horrible conduct of the lds “god”
Another poster on this site quite a while ago said the following:
“Let me speak plainly. There is no way on God’s green earth that the Catholics didn’t screw things up.
It was done at the behest of hundreds of cardinals and priests and dozens of popes.
Could supply a link? It would be interesting to note who said it, if it was really said. And since what posters say, according to you, must be truth, then if a past poster said js was from satan, it would true, then?
But how about fact? Without the Catholic Church, there is no Bible. There is no Christianity. You have a lot for which to give thanks to the Catholic Church.
That my friend is Satanic and a blind imbecile can recognize it. There is absolutely zero chance that Christ had anything to do with organizing and directing the affairs of the Roman Catholic Church. I am sorry you can't see it. It doesn't take much thinking to recognize how hollow your pronouncements are about any religious doctrine matters. I apologize for offending you but you just won't let it alone no matter how respectful I try to be.”
Ah…so when MMM happened, it proved that God had nothing to do with directing the lds church?
After thinking about this you can understand where someone of the LDS faith is coming from.
No, I can’t. When I was LDS, the LDS members tried to kidnap my children. Tell me, what did God think of that?
When Aaron the High Priest and a prophet in his own right built the cow to be worshiped did he teach false doctrine? Most people would say yes. It becomes an even more complex task of determining who is a prophet when we consider the example of Balaam the prophet in the Old Testament. Not every prophet was like Moses or Elijah.
Wrong. Show me ANYWHERE where Aaron taught the calf was THE God and had to be worshiped. Did he do wrong in giving in to the people? Yes. But show where were he TAUGHT false doctrine. And was He the prophet? No. He was not. There was ONE prophet, and it was Moses. Very poor effort, sir.
The other things (digs) on this thread have been discussed previously at length can be found from the LDS perspective on the FARMS or FAIR websites. I have better things to do with my time than spare with other posters about these things.
In general, this website is for Catholics looking for answers to their faith questions. It is not for LDS apologetics to proselytize. I respect this understanding of the website use. There is a fallacy in thinking that if no LDS responds to what I has been asserted by a poster it has to be true. This fallacy is called argumentum ad logicam. Look it up.
lol…another dodge. I understand.
If you are actually interested in bringing the LDS into the Catholic faith I think that you should know that the tone of comments in this thread and threads like this puts us off.
I have found that truth always puts Mormons off.
When you fail to accurately represent what the LDS believe it calls into question everything else that you have said from an LDS perspective. Sure, you are allowed to say what you want, but sometimes it is a matter of how you say it. I generally ignore threads like this since it appears that many posters are only interested in making digs at the LDS. It comes off that way even if not intended on the part of posters.
I challenge you to show me single fact about the LDS Church that I have misrepresented or lied about. I haven’t. Not once. And for you to make such a wide-sweeping comment shows either you have gone back and read all my posts, or that you are someone who was banned and came back.
I have had conversations at work with a coworker who is pagan (& Unitarian at the same time) about religion with whom I share no religious beliefs, but I can have interesting, civil, and respectful conversations about religious matters. Actually, I can have similar types of conversations with my Catholic coworkers about religious topics, too. It’s a shame that this frequently can’t happen on this site.
No one forces you to be here.