Centre of Bible

Dear Freinds,

I received an e-mail about the NKJV. Given that there are 66 books in this version and 73 in the Vulgate.

Would these still apply to the Vulgate or the Douay-Rheims versions.

What is the shortest chapter of the Bible ? - Psalm 117
What is the longest chapter of the Bible ? - Psalm 119
What chapter is in the centre of the Bible? - Psalm 118
There are 594 chapters before Psalm 118 and 594 chapters after Psalm 118. Add up the chapters and you get 1188.

What is the centre verse of the Bible? - Psalm 118:8

Psalm 118:8 states “It is better to trust in the Lord than put confidence in man”

Brad

I believe that the center of the protestant versions is found in the individual reading and interpreting it.:whistle:

[quote=Intrigued Latin]Dear Freinds,

I received an e-mail about the NKJV. Given that there are 66 books in this version and 73 in the Vulgate.

Would these still apply to the Vulgate or the Douay-Rheims versions.

What is the shortest chapter of the Bible ? - Psalm 117
What is the longest chapter of the Bible ? - Psalm 119
What chapter is in the centre of the Bible? - Psalm 118
There are 594 chapters before Psalm 118 and 594 chapters after Psalm 118. Add up the chapters and you get 1188.

What is the centre verse of the Bible? - Psalm 118:8

Psalm 118:8 states “It is better to trust in the Lord than put confidence in man”

Brad

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There technically is no center of the Catholic Bible. The number of verses are even. If I remember correctly, the middle is somewhere in Ps. 145.

Here’s an interesting thread on the subject. A Catholic Answer’s poster went about refuting this e-mail:

forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=87822&highlight=shortest+chapter

And here’s what an apologist in the ATA forum said on the matter:

forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=10311&highlight=shortest+chapter

[quote=Intrigued Latin]Dear Freinds,

I received an e-mail about the NKJV. Given that there are 66 books in this version and 73 in the Vulgate.

Would these still apply to the Vulgate or the Douay-Rheims versions.

What is the shortest chapter of the Bible ? - Psalm 117
What is the longest chapter of the Bible ? - Psalm 119
What chapter is in the centre of the Bible? - Psalm 118
There are 594 chapters before Psalm 118 and 594 chapters after Psalm 118. Add up the chapters and you get 1188.

What is the centre verse of the Bible? - Psalm 118:8

Psalm 118:8 states “It is better to trust in the Lord than put confidence in man”

Brad

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The truly ironic thing in these calculations is the fact that Psalm 118:8 can only be the center of the Bible IF one removes, by the will of men and not of God, the Deuterocanonical books included by the Church Christ founded. So, who is it that “put confidence in man” instead of trusting in the Lord? Protestants, that’s who.

Besides, this whole exercise is a joke! As if God cares which verse of which book is in the middle of the Bible. Don’t we have better things to think about, like loving God and our neighbor? :hmmm:

Am I right in saying that it was the Catholic Church that assigned chapters and verses to the Bible in the first place?

Most Protestants accept Catholic Church authority in changing the Sabbath celebration from Saturday to Sunday, when to celebrate Christmas and Easter etc… It beats me why they persist in chucking out the Deuterocanonical books.

Eileen T wrote:

Am I right in saying that it was the Catholic Church that assigned chapters and verses to the Bible in the first place?

I found this in the Catholic Encyclopedia:

Card. Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury, who died 1228, divided all the books of Scripture uniformly into chapters, a division which found its way almost immediately into the codices of the Vulgate version and even into some codices of the original texts, and passed into all the printed editions after the invention of printing. As the chapters were too long for ready reference, Cardinal Hugh of St. Cher divided them into smaller sections which he indicated by the capital letters A, B, etc. Robert Stephens, probably imitating R. Nathan (1437) divided the chapters into verses, and published his complete division into chapters and verses first in the Vulgate text (1548), and later on also in the Greek original of the New Testament (1551).

Brad,

There are several ways to define “center.”

  • As many books before as after
  • As many chapters before as after (which your source seems to have used)
  • As many verses before as after
  • As many words before as after
  • As many letters before as after.

Given the wide variety of numbers of verses in individual chapters, I would be very skeptical that the central chapter also contains the central verse.

  • Liberian

The other “ironic” thing is this… For anyone interested in “bible trivia”, Catholics or Protestants alike, here’s a verse we should all try to commit to memory, ponder, and pray about: John 6:66

“After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him.”
John 6:66 RSV Everyone knows what 666 symbolizes…

After what? After people rejected the truth about Jesus giving us Himself in the Eucharist (i.e., Communion). This should serve as a reminder to us to have complete faith in Jesus’ presence in the Eucharist. To help us all better understand how important it was, it was last thing He did with His apostles before His crucifixion and the first thing He did with his disciples after He resurrected (Emmaus).

Below, you’ll find the verses that precede John 6:66

John 6:35-65
"35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to me shall not hunger, and he who believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me; and him who comes to me I will not cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him who sent me; 39 and this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up at the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that every one who sees the Son and believes in him should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”

41 The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, “I am the bread which came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does he now say, ‘I have come down from heaven’?” 43 Jesus answered them, “Do not murmur among yourselves. 44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. 45 It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught by God.’ Every one who has heard and learned from the Father comes to me. 46 Not that any one has seen the Father except him who is from God; he has seen the Father. 47 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that a man may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread[c] which came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”[d] 53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; 54 he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread which came down from heaven, not such as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live for ever.” 59 This he said in the synagogue, as he taught at Caper′na-um.

The Words of Eternal Life

60 Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” 61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at it, said to them, “Do you take offense at this? 62 Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending where he was before?[e] 63 It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64 But there are some of you that do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the first who those were that did not believe, and who it was that should betray him. 65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” "

For a GREAT teaching on the Mass, the Eucharist, checkout the teaching by Fr Larry Richards: youtube.com/watch?v=OGQLWj37KKk

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