Changing the Protestant Eucharist


#1

There are words that the priest invokes to change the bread and wine into the bread and body of Christ. A man once told me a Protestant can’t do it, because they don’t believe. All they would have to do is believe in it to make it work and ask the Holy Spirit to change it.


#2

The bread and wine become the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ because the priest has been consecrated and anointed by a bishop, who received the same from a bishop, and so on all the way back to the apostles.


#3

No, that’s not correct.

A Protestant Minister is not in the Apostolic succession . His hands are not consecrated. He is not a Priest. It’s not about words.


#4

Yup. Apostolic succession. It’s a thing.


#5

Circa the year 33 A.D., these things did and didn’t happen…

Did happen…

  • Jesus Christ instituting the Sacrament of the Eucharist at the Last Supper
  • Jesus Christ crucified
  • Jesus Christ risen from the dead
  • Jesus Christ making appearances for 40 days
  • Jesus Christ ascended to the Father in heaven
  • Church established upon 12 Apostles
  • Great Commission given to the Church to go into all the world and make disciples of all nations asking them to obey all that Christ commanded.
  • Holy Spirit sent upon the Church

Did not happen…

  • Jesus writing Scripture
  • Jesus asking for Scripture to be written

#6

I’d tweak that to ‘it is not just about words’. The words are important too along with the authority given via consecration by a successor to the Apostles.


#7

True. It is both about the words of consecration and the authority to consecrate. That was broken during the reformation for those ordained afterward, but remained valid until the first generation of reformers (disobedient but validly ordained as Catholic) died. The Anglicans abandoned it with the inception of the Edwardine Ordinal, which furthered and cemented the Protestant division of the Anglican Church from the Catholic.

I any event, according to Fr. Mitch Pacwa, the so-called reformation was ultimately an assault on the Holy Eucharist, as its fruits were to destroy apostolic succession, which has resulted in a complete profaning of the Eucharist for those few who still believe in it.


#8

When the Resurrected Jesus Christ ascended from the earth, he left no new Scriptures but he left behind Apostles who became the first bishops of the Church.


#9

There is no such thing as a Protestant Eucharist, loveme. You receive a piece of cracker and grape juice, neither of which is consecrated by a validly ordained priest. The piece of cracker and grape juice you receive in your communion remain cracker and grape juice, symbols only. They cannot be changed into the Body and Blood of Christ by your Protestant pastors. Your pastors are not validly ordained through Apostolic Succession.

Catholics receive Jesus, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Eucharist. What is ordinary bread and wine before consecration becomes Jesus after the words of consecration are spoken by our validly ordained priests.

If you wish to truly receive Jesus in the Eucharist, you will need to leave Protestantism behind and convert in order to become a member of the Catholic Church.


#10

My church uses bread and grape juice
Is wine supposed to be used?


#11

All of the Protestant churches I attended use grape juice in their communion.


#12

And ALL Catholic churches use wine.


#13

It’s profaning the Eucharist


#14

What Protestant churches have and do is not the Eucharist.


#15

love me, if you believe that Jesus is truly present in the Eucharist, how and why do you remain a Protestant?

And no, Protestant communion doesn’t profane the Eucharist because Protestants don’t receive the Eucharist. Protestants receive bread/cracker and grape juice which are merely symbols.

In order to receive Jesus in the Eucharist, you must leave your Protestant Church and convert (RCIA) and become a member of the Catholic Church.


#16

Correct. They call it the Lord’s Supper. But it is no way the Eucharist.


#17

Protestants don’t have valid holy orders, so they cannot confect the Eucharist. Only those Churches which can possibly trace their roots back to the apostles, the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, can claim to have the valid holy orders necessary for consecrating the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ.


#18

How can you “profane” something which you do not have?


#20

Jesus doesn’t appear Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity under the appearances of crackers and grape juice juat because more than one believer is in a room.


#21

As stated before, theirs is a symbol only. They may believe that Jesus is in their midst. And yes, they do theirs “in memory” of His sacrifice on the Cross. But they don’t experience it the way we do.


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