Charity Vs Us Goverment


#1

with the large amount of tax dollars going to the people in need
such as fema, public housing, food stamps,welfare checks, and the like i sometimes feel like taking a charitable tax donation
off my income tax for the income tax i pay.
please help me understand my wrong thinking.


#2

[quote=CLW001]with the large amount of tax dollars going to the people in need
such as fema, public housing, food stamps,welfare checks, and the like i sometimes feel like taking a charitable tax donation
off my income tax for the income tax i pay.
please help me understand my wrong thinking.
[/quote]

Don’t think of it that way…think of it as giving to the poor…helping to feed and clothe the way that Jesus tells us to…

Remember Jesus also told us to Render unto Ceaser (sp?) what is Ceaser’s…and be glad that some of that money goes to the poor instead of going elsewhere


#3

Depends on what the tax law of the US government says.


#4

[quote=CLW001]with the large amount of tax dollars going to the people in need
such as fema, public housing, food stamps,welfare checks, and the like i sometimes feel like taking a charitable tax donation
off my income tax for the income tax i pay.
please help me understand my wrong thinking.
[/quote]

well, in a way you are not ‘wrong thinking’…

in the old testament, the church (( temple )) helped take care of those in need… now the government has assumed some of that
responsibility… and God wanted people to give to the temple
so that that good work could be done…

so, i look at it like this, i hope God looks with favor at help given
the poor… whether by the government or individuals… so, i like to think God will consider part of my tax bill to be a charitable work…

lol

:slight_smile:


#5

maybe i should add that if we give to the poor and needy through out taxes do we still have to give to charitable organazations
also.


#6

[quote=CLW001]maybe i should add that if we give to the poor and needy through out taxes do we still have to give to charitable organazations
also.
[/quote]

we need to do all we can do… in all things…

:slight_smile:


#7

Hello CLW,

I know what you mean. I just read where Catholic Bishops were condmening the United States Government (350 million tax payers) for discontinuing THEMA payments for motels for the huricane homeless. Why did not the Bishops and (1.1 billion Catholics) step up to the plate and say we Christ’s Church will take over motel payments and help the poor?

Catholic Relief Services came up with 35 million dollars to help Tsunamie victims and they were glorified for their accomplishment. The United States came up with 35 million dollars to help Tsumamie victims and we were condemned and ostracized.

Where America talks in hundeds of billions for foreign aid and national welfare 1.1 billion Catholics, “Christ’s Bride” seems to only talk in tens of millions. Maybe hundreds of millions.

Pope John Paul II many times condemned the World Bank for not forgiving third world debt. Not once did he condemn 1.1 billion Catholics for not coming up with enough charity dollars to pay off third world debt.

I have heard that Catholics, “Christ’s Bride” pay on average less than one percent of their income to Charity, yet when Popes condemn, it always secular nations that Popes target, not the flock. Who goes to heaven for caring for the least of Christ’s brothers? Is it really the World Bank or the United States who go to heavan for caring for the least of Christ’s brothers? I thought it was Christ’s Bride the Church who Christ commanded to love their neighbor as their self and feed the poor, or BURN IN HELL!

Who loves you Jesus, the Church or the State?

NAB MAT 25:31

"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?’ And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’ Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?’ He will answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’ And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
LUK 16:19 The Rich Man and Lazarus

"There was a rich man who dressed in purple garments and fine linen and dined sumptuously each day. And lying at his door was a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who would gladly have eaten his fill of the scraps that fell from the rich man’s table. Dogs even used to come and lick his sores. When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, and from the netherworld, where he was in torment, he raised his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he cried out, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me. Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am suffering torment in these flames.’ Abraham replied, ‘My child, remember that you received what was good during your lifetime while Lazarus likewise received what was bad; but now he is comforted here,** whereas you are tormented. Moreover, between us and you a great chasm is established to prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours or from your side to ours**.’


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