China communist regime's 'security' law 'could be end of Hong Kong' as communists assault or intimidate Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia, India

Last year, millions took to the streets over seven months to protest against a bill that would have allowed extraditions to mainland China. Many of the protests turned violent. The bill was eventually paused, and then withdrawn.

Pro-democracy activists fear the law will be used to muzzle protests in defiance of the freedoms enshrined in the Basic Law, as similar laws in China are used to silence opposition to the Communist Party

The BBC’s China correspondent, Robin Brant, says that what makes the situation so incendiary is that Beijing can simply bypass Hong Kong’s elected legislators and impose the changes.

When the people of Hong Kong were given the chance to vote in local elections last year, they voted by a majority against the communist regime.

Seventeen of the 18 district councils are now controlled by pro-democracy councillors, according to local media.

The election, the first since the wave of anti-Beijing protests began, saw an unprecedented turnout of more than 71%.

Pro-democracy candidates won close to 60% of the total vote on Sunday

Over the course of April and throughout May, while much of the world’s attention was trained on the coronavirus’s spiraling death toll, hardly a day passed in Hong Kong without news of arrested activists, scuffles among lawmakers, or bombastic proclamations from mainland officials. Long-standing norms were done away with at dizzying speed.

In that time, Beijing was undertaking aggressive actions across Asia. A Chinese ship rammed a Vietnamese vessel in the contested waters of the South China Sea, sinking it. Off the coast of Malaysia, in the country’s exclusive economic zone, a Chinese research vessel, accompanied by coast-guard and fishing ships—likely part of China’s maritime militia, civilian vessels marshaled by Beijing in times of need—began survey work near a Malaysian oil rig. The standoff that followed drew warships from the United States and Australia, as well as China. Beijing then declared that it had created two administrative units on islands in the South China Sea that are also claimed by Vietnam. Chinese officials have reacted, too, with predictable rage to Taiwan, whose handling of the pandemic has won plaudits and begun a push for more international recognition.

A wounded animal is sometimes harder to deal with. If countries turned against China because of corona, isolated it, of course, China might be more troublesome.

I feel for the people of Hong Kong.

But a million times more of an expert than me, Gordon Chang, seems to think something positive can happen… he’s always an optimist.

https://twitter.com/GordonGChang

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How long can authoritarianism survive when it is allowing citizens to pursue wealth and foreign education? IMO it’s a matter of time for widespread unrest.

I’m not an expert but his optimism isn’t making me less pessimistic.

They keep a very close eye on their citizens studying in foreign countries.

The association has been accused of peddling Chinese propaganda and helping the Chinese Government to keep an eye on its overseas students.

China takes a keen interest in “the activities and welfare of their students overseas,” said David Mulroney, a former Canadian ambassador to China and a Distinguished Fellow at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy.

Interest on the one hand is to oversee the welfare of students in a “much more hands on way than we would in the West,” he said. The other objective is to monitor students who are critical of the Chinese government, which is a way of “maintaining control.”

I am all ears, waiting for the political leaders who have done so much deflecting on SARS-COV-2 to do something for the brave people of Hong Kong. Or to say something that shows a commitment to the principles of our nation. This - not malarkey about China and the WHO’ssresponse or Corona virus - is the great challenge facing out nation.

I have almost no hope that we will stand for anything that reflects our fundamental values,

There’s a separate thread on China sending troops across its border with India and setting up infrastructure on Indian territory just recently.

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The communists always black out the BBC in China whenever they report the regime’s evil. Here, the BBC’s China Correspondent has a video of it.

This type of censorship isn’t bad, it’s a good thing according to some (including here on CAF who won’t be named).

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I think that if China has proven anything it’s that this kind of authoritarianism isn’t in contradiction with the corporatist/capitalist/market economy that they have. Also lots of the Chinese middle class are extremely happy with how China is currently - I spoke to some Chinese students while I was a student myself, and they only had extremely positive things to say. They said that they could see their lives improve gradually before their very own eyes, and they had no doubt that China was a socialist economy on one of many stages towards a communist future. I imagine a lot of the people being educated abroad are students like this, who very much love China and the CCP, and who benefit strongly from its recent economic developments.

What is less known in the West is that there is actually a lot of nostalgia for the Mao era among China’s working class. I am reading a book on the Cultural Revolution currently, and the author notes that a lot of working class people seem to view it as a time where they would have been able to denounce the current managerial and capitalist class that has developed in China. She was also apprehended by the police force in the country, who were explicit about the fact that the Chinese state carefully controls the narrative surrounding the Cultural Revolution for fear that it could be used to spread anti-government sentiment.

Interesting. However it only reinforces how I see things. People there really are enjoying the prosperity and therefore have positive remarks about the economic system. I just don’t think it can be sustained, and expect a harsh domestic reaction when their fortunes turn. Censorship and lack of democratic voice will then cause great frustration for everyone because their expectations grew during the good times.

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My experience is mainly with Hong Kong and Hong Kong Chinese. It is extremely unfortunate that Beijing will not leave well enough alone there. And it is also unfortunate that help to HK will go lacking.

I met a number of Chinese Buddhists from both Taiwan and the Mainland. The Mainlanders do not care for the government at all. Purportedly, there have been Chinese Christians here. They too, find the Chinese Communist Government revolting. Let’s not forget the Uighurs as well and the reported labor camps where they have been interred.

Let alone, many Chinese flee the country.

Chinese have been arrested in Philippines and Cambodia and who knows where else on charges of online casinos or making drugs.

320 is no small number. I’d wager a number of Chinese in the US would be concerned about being spied upon in University. I believe stories have been written to that affect.

Add in, the birthing motels that have been raided and busted in California, coming across the borders. This hardly sounds like a successful system.

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I always thought the ‘one country, two systems’ policy was doomed from the start.

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Communist China has been through far worse than anything coming now. If the regime could survive the Great Leap Forward, it can survive this. If worse comes to worse, Xi gets sidelined like Mao did in the early 1960s. This is a regime built for longevity.

The best way to deal with China now is to resurrect the Trans-Pacific Partnership, whose whole intent was to create a Pacific Basin trade bloc that would have the clout to impose certain behaviors on China. For reasons I’m not sure anyone can explain, in 2016 this became the object of great ire in the United States, and both Trump and Clinton, as candidates, decided it had to go. Well, just imagine if the TPP had come into effect in 2017. Then the US would have had no lack of significant allies ready to assist it in reigning China in.

At the moment, China is on something of a back foot with the US and other major trading partners. Ironically, this liberates China, as it knows the West is going to bang on it for a bit over COVID-19, so what the heck, it has nothing to lose right now by finally bringing Hong Kong to heel. It’s betting than in a couple of years, when the pandemic is faded, the West’s love of China’s manufactured goods, everyone will have quite forgotten about Hong Kong. And I’ll wager Beijing is quite right in that forecast.

It is betting that strong voices in the are so pre-occupied with dealing with the Corona virus, that whatever bandwidth that they have for China affairs will be spent deflecting, however speciously, from their dismal handling to the pandemic and deflecting to China. The West has forgotten Hong Kong already. That is tragic.

Looks like a long time.

Let’s not forget the Tianneman students were pro Mao protestors, not just ‘democracy’.

China is a nightmare the world has yet to wake up from.

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