[quote="KyivAndrew, post:11, topic:189443"]
First off. I do not loathe the Russian people but their rulers, as do many Russians themselves - Mikhail Kasyanov, Gary Kasparov, the Russian members of Memorial dedicated to preserving the memory of Russian victims persecuted in the Soviet Union who had their offices raided by Putin. I despise any authoritarian ruler who does not allow the Russian people freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly. Such it was under the Soviet Union, and so it is under Putin. If you wish to make the case for Putin as "humanitarian democrat" as opposed to Chekist be my guest. Putin indeed had official stamps issued commemorating the heads of the Soviet Secret Police during the Holodomor like Vsevolod Balitsky given place of honor. I WANT the Russian people to live free of corruption, dictatorship, immorality - the exact same I wish for Ukrainians. Indeed, I will criticize the current President of Ukraine to the hilt on this.
And thank you for being so kind as to accuse me of an "agenda". I wish nothing less for the Russian people for once in their lives not to be ruled by a one-party government, or the Cheka, or secret police, or an authoritarian ruler. As long as Putin goes on glorifying the Soviet past or secret police I believe it fair to criticize as many Russians have done. I'm sorry you cannot see the distinction. Have you never heard of Anna Politkovskaya?
Secondly, right now, the U.S.A., Canada, and the United Kingdom have members of their armed forces dieing in Afghanistan. I sometimes see the funeral columns of dead Canadian soldiers who fell in Afghanistan pass along the highway by my home. I think it disgraceful to put these men and women from your country and my own on the same moral level as the Red Army; evidently you don't.
Let's be clear: do you wish to make the case for moral equivalence between the Soviet Union and the United States in the 20th century. I would love to hear the case. You believe American democracy morally akin to Soviet atheist totalitarianism in the last century, is that correct?
None of the soldiers dying in Afghanistan are from my country. I am not from the UK, I merely reside there. I abhor their deaths as they are fellow human beings but I do not think individually they are generally more or less moral than members of the Red Army, including members of my own family such as my wife's grandfather who was a Col. in that organisation or my brother-in-law who served as a junior officer in it and is now a Col. in the Russian army.
Let's just say for a non-American observer America can seem as brutal at times looking at if from a historical perspective as did the Soviet Union. Indeed so can my own country when looked at objectively enough.