China to send nuclear-armed submarines into Pacific amid tensions with US


**China to send nuclear-armed submarines into Pacific amid tensions with US

The Chinese military is poised to send submarines armed with nuclear missiles into the Pacific Ocean for the first time, arguing that new US weapons systems have so undermined Beijing’s existing deterrent force that it has been left with no alternative.

Chinese military officials are not commenting on the timing of a maiden patrol, but insist the move is inevitable.

They point to plans unveiled in March to station the US Thaad anti-ballistic system in South Korea, and the development of hypersonic glide missiles potentially capable of hitting China less than an hour after launch, as huge threats to the effectiveness of its land-based deterrent force.

A recent Pentagon report to Congress predicted that “China will probably conduct its first nuclear deterrence patrol sometime in 2016”, though top US officers have made such predictions before.**

China has been working on ballistic missile submarine technology for more than three decades, but actual deployment has been put off by technical failures, institutional rivalry and policy decisions.

Until now, Beijing has pursued a cautious deterrence policy, declaring it would never be the first to use nuclear weapons in a conflict and storing its warheads and its missiles separately, both strictly under the control of the top leadership.

Deploying nuclear-armed submarines would have far-reaching implications.

Warheads and missiles would be put together and handed over to the navy, allowing a nuclear weapon to be launched much faster if such a decision was taken. The start of Chinese missile patrols could further destabilise the already tense strategic standoff with the US in the South China Sea.

**Last Tuesday, a US spy plane and two Chinese fighter jets came close to colliding 50 miles of Hainan island, where China’s four Jin-Class ballistic missile submarines are based. A fifth is under construction.

The two countries’ navies have also come uncomfortably close around disputed islands in the same region, and the chance of a clash will be heightened by cat-and-mouse submarine operations, according to Wu Riqiang, an associate professor at the School of International Studies at the Renmin University in Beijing.**

“Because China’s SSBNs [nuclear missile submarines] are in the South China Sea, the US navy will try to send spy ships in there and get close to the SSBNs. China’s navy hates that and will try to push them away,” Wu said.

Deploying ballistic missile submarines poses a huge dilemma for Beijing. If it can only launch its weapons on receiving orders from the top, they risk being rendered unusable by a surprise “decapitation” strike on the Chinese leadership.

However, to follow the British Royal Navy model – in which each Trident submarine commander has a signed letter from the prime minister in his safe, to open in the event of a strike on London – would entail a huge leap in the alert status of the Chinese nuclear arsenal, and a similarly huge delegation of responsibility to one of the armed forces.

Wu argues Beijing would be better off sticking to its present policy of hiding its land-based ICBMs in more ingenious ways.

Under Xi’s assertive leadership, China seems determined that the Chinese nuclear deterrent will take finally to the ocean, and it has already taken thestep of putting multiple warheads on its missiles. Those steps are mostly in response to US measures, which in turn were triggered by unrelated actions by the North Koreans.

The law of unintended consequences is in danger of taking the upper hand. “The two sides may thus be stumbling blindly into severe crisis instability and growing competition by China with respect to strategic forces,” Lewis argues. “A competition between unevenly matched forces is inherently unstable.”


Dollars to donuts this is not the “maiden voyage” of Chinese nuclear submarines.


I may be mistaken, but dont many US submarines have nuclear warheads onboard while out cruising the seas? The idea being if the mainland was attacked, they would still have ways to launch…Strange that no other nation has had a beef about this.

This is scary though, seems like China is looking for an excuse to rile up the US into some kind of action.


I hope war does not happen between China and the US.


Hypersonic glide missiles? I doubt it.

I highly doubt there have been such great improvements in heat shielding, guidance and engines. The X-51 was not very successful. The speeds involved mean only a tiny fraction off and you miss your target. Warhead size would also be a factor.

And conflicting reports… as usual.





That was my thought. I think we all know that China is a nuclear power with the ability to attack us. At least this time they announced it. It will at least give the hunter subs something to do.


Yeah, I am terrible at Fallout. (This is a bad joke I know) but does anyone else have that sort of feeling that Fallout might have “predicted” the future?


Oh, it most certainly did. :smiley:

Thankfully for me, I have played Fallout obsessively. I am prepared for the future tof the hilt.


Dangerous times.

The world sees Obama as the feckless president who draws red lines in the sand. Therefore there window opportunity is now, before someone else who is an unknown quantity enters the WH in eight months.


China has inherent built-in problems that we cannot even begin to imagine:


In 2015, China’s government has done something much more ambitious. It has reached the tail end of its own mind-blowingly large campaign of malinvestment. It goes beyond just the enormous ghost cities of empty apartment buildings and shopping malls that the regime has financed. According to one government report, between 2009 and 2013, nearly $7 trillion was simply wasted on useless projects for which there was no demand.**

China has suffered for thousands of years because of “Mandarin thinking” … the ultimate bureaucrats.


Governments that are threatened from without and within are very dangerous to themselves and others. The United States is no exception; these are not times to be at ease. These next 200+ days seem long off, don’t they? Pray, hope and don’t worry! …
(Padre Pio).


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