In another forum topic a point of discussion came about that I thought would be well worth considering at length, and in detail. The topic was comparing the Catholic and the Adventist views on Christ’s ministry in the heavenly sanctuary.
Heb 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
Find enclosed below an exerpt from that discussion (by adventistnomore) which entails the main points to be discussed:
Adventists stress the Priesthood of Christ. In particular, they emphasize that the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross does not complete the plan of redemption. The blood of Christ must also be applied to believers on earth and to the Heavenly Sanctuary. (They also add that Christ began cleansing the Most Holy Place of the Hevaenly Sanctuary in 1844). An understanding of the work of Christ in the Heavenly Sactuary, presenting His body and blood before the Father to cleanse the universe of sin prior to His Second Coming is a unique insight of Adventism. In Adventism, it is hailed as a central doctrinal truth and its discovery led to the formation of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Interestingly enough, this belief brings them much criticism from other Protestants (and some who have left the Church) who believe the doctrine denies the efficacy of Chist’s once-for-all Sacrifice, and yet, this doctrine places them closer than any other Protestant group to understanding the Sacrifice of the Mass:
We as Catholics also affirm that the Sacrifice of the Cross paved the way for Christ, as Priest, to continually apply the benefits of His once-for-all Sacrifice to believers and eternally present His body and blood before the Father. However, we add that in the Eucharist, Christ’s body and blood is also made present in the Church, and the priest, acting in the person (and priesthood) of Christ, presents that body and blood of Christ to God together with the local church assembled in the echaristic sacrifice. Thus, what Adventists rightly envision occuring in the Heavenly Sanctuary (that is, Christ eterally presenting His once-for-all Sacrifice before the Father) is made mystically present in Catholic & Orthodox churches during every liturgy or mass. We join our Great High Priest, and the Church, in the universal liturgy centered around the throne of God the Father. (One of the reasons Catholics sing the Sanctus is because we are mystically united to all the angels in Heaven when we prepare to offer the Eucharistic Sacrifice sigging the song of Heaven: Holy, Holy, Holy.)
It is my understanding that the Catholic “Eucharist” service is what is being referred to in the above quote for the Catholic side of this equation. If that is not correct, then please correct me. The Adventist side of the equation, while stated accurately for the most part, does not in fact depict this topic exactly as we see it; however, there is plenty for us to start on for this interesting line of study. As we progress; I will detail some of the ways that we see this topic, which are not listed above. I realize that neither the paragraph on Catholics or Adventists above is intended to be exhaustive, so with that in mind, we can likely begin.
I would like to propose that we try this a bit of a different way. If I am correct, Catholics use a passage in John, chapter six to explain their views on The Eucharist, and on Christ’s continuing ministry in the heavenly sanctuary. Therefore, I would really like to do a chapter study on John, chapter six. If we study this entire chapter, a few verses at a time, I think it will bring out a lot of really interesting points - common ground, and uncommon ground. This kind of idea appeals to me because then it is not just “us versus them” involved. A little common ground won’t hurt, and the back ground information in the rest of the chapter will enhance the information gleaned on the part that Catholics interpret as “Eucharistic.”
The first few verses read like this:
Joh 6:1 After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is the sea of Tiberias.
Joh 6:2 And a great multitude followed him, because they saw his miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
Joh 6:3 And Jesus went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.
Joh 6:4 And the passover, a feast of the Jews, was nigh.
I would like to hear comments on how forum members see this passage. There are two time periods mentioned here. One in vs.1, and another in vs 4. What is meant by “after these things?” What is the significance **in this text **of “the Passover?”