Colin Powel admits they were wrong about WMD

In a recent TV interview over here. You can watch it here

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4617704.stm

The former US secretary of state has admitted intelligence about Iraq stockpiling weapons of mass destruction was wrong.

Worth watching!!

OK, so what’s your point?

I noticed he didn’t say ‘oh, I was actually right all along, but they were sent to Syria’. In fact he said the opposite. The weapons weren’t there.

So (a) the Syria idea is either simply wrong, or

(b) everyone is involved in a massive cover-up to hide the incompetence of invading a country for weapons that had been moved, by instead pretending that they were incompetent enough to invade a country for weapons that didn’t exist.

On balance, I’ll plump for (a) :slight_smile:

Mike

Based on what?

Based on the ignoring the fact that we know many Iraq Baathist leaders ended up in Syria?

Based on the ignoring the fact that we know that there were caravans of trucks headed to Syria before the Liberation?

Based on what?

Personally, I don’t think Powell knows for sure and because he doesn’t, he isn’t saying.

Based on what?

or © Saddam’s WMD’s were never intended for use against the US. They were intended as a weapon that could be employed against neighbors or rebels within Iraq. Thus, they did not have to be ready to fire off at a moment’s notice. In fact, it would be SAFER for Saddam if they were kept as comparatively harmless precursor chemicals until there was a specific need for the final WMD product since then only Saddam and his loyalists who knew the recipe and had the ‘cooking’ products could use them. Such foes did not have the capability to topple Iraq’s government as quickly as the US did, so there was no burning need to have them mission-ready.

Incidentally, large caches of such chemicals WERE found in military ammo dumps throughout Iraq. But you can’t call them WMD’s if they aren’t mixed up that way.

In this scenario, it is perfectly understandable how intelligence could detect the reality of a WMD program, but mistake its purpose and level of readiness.

In hindsight, perhaps the biggest intelligence failure of all was the failure to realize the significance of the fact that Saddam didn’t use his chemical weapons against the USA in 1991 when he DID have them and many of them were mission - ready.

[quote=Matt25]Based on what?
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Based on the fact that he has said in the past that he is aware of a lot of trucks going into Syria before the liberation.

[quote=gilliam]Based on the fact that he has said in the past that he is aware of a lot of trucks going into Syria before the liberation.
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“A lot of trucks” and “weapons of mass destruction” are not identical concepts. Rich Iraqi’s not wanting to be bumped off by the invaders might well flee the country with all their goods and chattels. Huge columns of refugee’s precede many invading armies. Some of them even use trucks.

COLIN Powell yesterday warned that Iran was heading down the same path as Iraq had done before the 2003 invasion and could not be trusted to tell the truth about its nuclear programme.

The former United States secretary of state said he believed Iran posed a serious threat to the rest of the world in the same way that Iraq had done, and he refused to apologise for the action the US took against Saddam Hussein’s regime.

In an interview with The Scotsman, Mr Powell said it was clear that negotiations with Iran had come to a dead end and efforts now had to concentrate on preventing it taking the same path as Iraq had done. “We are trying to keep it from being that way,” he said. "Iraq actually had nuclear weapons capability that they were within a couple of years of bringing to weapons status.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.scotsman.com

[quote=FightingFat]In a recent TV interview over here. You can watch it here

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4617704.stm

Worth watching!!
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It’s too little too late from you, General Powell. You have shredded your credibility and allowed yourself to be used by this administration in a most offensive way. Unfortunately, this will haunt you for the rest of your days.

[quote=gilliam]COLIN Powell yesterday warned that Iran was heading down the same path as Iraq had done before the 2003 invasion and could not be trusted to tell the truth about its nuclear programme.
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If he is warning that Iran is going down the same path Iraq did, and Iraq didn’t have any WMD, then what path is Iran going down?

[quote=Semper Fi]If he is warning that Iran is going down the same path Iraq did, and Iraq didn’t have any WMD, then what path is Iran going down?
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Hmmm. Interesting point.

[quote=Semper Fi]If he is warning that Iran is going down the same path Iraq did, and Iraq didn’t have any WMD, then what path is Iran going down?
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Being the object of an illegal US led invasion perhaps.

[quote=Matt25]Being the object of an illegal US led invasion perhaps.
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OUCH!!

That was so sharp I just cut myself!!! :stuck_out_tongue:

[quote=Matt25]Being the object of an illegal US led invasion perhaps.
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“Illegal” in your eyes. Please also prove that Iran is going to be subject to a US invasion. Sorry, the United Nations and the corrupt Kofi Annan does not have sovereignty over the United States. :slight_smile:

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