[quote=ahimsaman72]No. Their understanding of “communion of saints” and “saints” is just different from yours. They have an understanding - the correct one . Of course, saints are all living Christians, just like the Bible teaches.
Certainly, all living Christians are called “saints.”
The Apostles had the correct understanding and taught it to the Catholic Church long before the NT was written. That’s the understanding that was incorporated into the Creeds. The Family of God is inseparable – death does not divide us – we are united in Christ, now and forever.
The Protestant understandings (plural) were (plural) “discovered” in or after the 16th century by different men (and women) reading the NT, isolated from its context – the heart of the living, teaching Church that wrote it.
Are these ten thousands of saints spoken of in the Pentateuch any other than those believing Israelites? They are certainly not canonized saints from Rome. Acts 9:13 “Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem.” Again, are these the canonized saints of Rome? No. Acts 9:32 “And it came to pass, as Peter passed throughout all quarters, he came down also to the saints which dwelt at Lydda.” Who are the saints here? They are the living believers living in Lydda.
No concept of the family of God on earth? That’s exactly what the Philadelphia confession shows.
The Catholic Church has been teaching the Truth that the Family of God is one – united in Christ – wherever we may be, for 2,000 years. Yes, part of the family is on earth. We are called saints. The members of our family that are in Purgatory, having their souls purified in preparation for Heaven, are called saints. Our family members in Heaven are called Saints, whether they have been canonized or not. Everyone in heaven is a Saint, but we may not know all their names at this point in our journey. Baptists have it half right.
Yes, you are right. We have no doctrines of men like purgatory.
The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, God Himself, and instructed by the Blessed Apostles. The Faith was once for all handed down to the saints (the holy ones), Jude 3
The very first Baptist church was founded by John Smyth in 1607, in Amsterdam, a split from the Mennonites. It has been splitting and splintering ever since.
Which of these institutions is man made, and which is God made?
Purgatory is a doctrine of God.
And, not all Catholics would subscribe to the Catechism or the church’s stance on birth control, abortion, etc. etc.
A Catholic, by definition, believes all that the Catholic Church teaches. One may call himself a Catholic, but that doesn’t make it true. I may call myself an American, but unless I have met the requirements for citizenship, the name is false. There are those using the name Catholic who do not meet the requirements of the Church for membership.
There’s more cohesiveness within the Baptist faith than is presented by non-Baptists and ex-Baptists.
Unfortunately, there is no “Baptist faith.” There are about 250 or so competing and conflicting “faiths” that call themselves Baptist.