[quote="bmadamsberry, post:2, topic:179913"]
I think that it's ridiculous to compare what is being done with the English Missal with what happend at Vatican-II. The only thing changing, I believe, with the English Missal is words, not actions (actions changed greatly with Vatican-II, such as where the priest faced, etc).
Furthermore, Vatican-II allowed for the Mass to be in the vernacular, and the new English Missal is, indeed, in the vernacular, it's just closer to that of the Latin. It's beautiful wording, and much truer to what was said in Latin. It flows nicely, and isn't awkward at all. Just because something is supposed to be in the vernacular doesn't mean that it's supposed to be dumbed down. Lastly, Vatican-II affected the Mass throughout the world, the new translation of the English Missal does not.
However, that's my opinion, and if someone can show me how that opinion is wrong, then by goodness I'll sign it! However, the new translation of the English Missal passed overwhelming in favor by the Bishops
You make good points in your answer. Many still do not understand the upheaval that occurred when the order of Mass was changed. Many left the Church because they couldn't deal with all of the changes occurring. I remember that it seemed something 'new' happened each week and it went beyond confusion in many instances. Those that stayed were eventually able to embrace what was happening, but it was a tough time.
The initial English translation was poorly done simply because many on that committee had their own agenda as to what they wanted. Some of the translation was clearly bogus, and I am surprised that the Church allowed it for so long a time. Now, the movement is to get back to the original intent of the Latin and it means translating accurately and as precise as possible, something that wasn't done.
Some American bishops are dead-set against the new translation now because they themselves were involved in the initial one. And their arguments are also bogus. They feel that translating verbatim from the Latin will be irrelevent because people don't use those phrases and meanings anymore. Actually, they think the common faithful are stupid. They always have because the faithful have really never (until the present generation of traditional loving Catholics) challenged anything in this regard. They just accept.
Vatican II also called for the retention of Latin in the Mass. Where has this occurred? So, instead of being alarmed over the new English translation, we should rejoice!