Hello again. I’ll try to be a bit more cordial on this topic than I was on my last.
A bit of a recap: I’m a very confused christian, I’m not sure whether to stay catholic or leave the faith. I have many issues with a couple of Church teachings including -the one present on this thread- the Eucharist. Honestly, I pray multiple times daily and drive myself crazy with this never ending debate in my head I just want to believe in something fully and wholly, that’s why I’m here. I’m still Catholic, I still go to confession often, and I still take communion ( after incessant begging before that I might truly believe what it is). I want to believe, but find it hard to.
Now for the Eucharist.
I understand the argument. This IS my body, this IS my blood.
Couple things. Jesus does say “do this in memory of me.” This to me signifies that it is purely symbolic. Also, I’d like to add this CARM defense of the symbolic nature I found convincing. “It’s like saying “this is my son” when pointing to a photograph of your son. Nobody thinks the photograph is literally your son.”
Generally the most convincing of the pro-true presence arguments.
BUT “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” Seems to again scream for the symbolic nature. (I.E the entire 50-60 is symbolic purely of spirit and life.)
Also, the common tag on to this argument is the people who left after Jesus said these things,
" But there are some of you who do not believe.”(For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) "
This again seems to scream symbolic and talking purely about belief in belief in Christ, not in the true presence.
I’ll be honest, I sometimes believe the Eucharist is pure Idolatry, that’s why I’m so very concerned.