=maxm2820;11855755]Hey, I should start by saying I am not a catholic. I was not raised in church, but I came to know God when I was 12. A year ago I met someone I know God wants in my life, but he is Roman Catholic and I am not. I found myself mostly in Baptist churches, although I do not consider myself a baptist, if that makes sense… Anywho, we both know that we have to consolidate our faith if this is going to work, which has been really easy to do until we started talking about the “requirements” of forgiveness. This is a pretty big issue; being that it is kinda the whole point of Christ’s death and all! I have a pretty good understanding of how confession “works,” however, I do not see it anywhere in the bible that we are required (post-resurrection) to speak to a priest before our sins are forgiven. No one I have spoken to can point me in the right direction, so here I am…Can someone point me to where/how confession came about in a post-resurrection sense.
I am told that I have to accept that Peter, being the first Pope, was given power to make rulings on Earth that Christ will uphold in Heaven (matt 16:??) : that I can accept; however, from my memory, there is nothing regarding confession in his writings in 1, 2, 3 Peter, etc (I am in the process of re-reading though). Are there other documents that catholics believe he wrote that I don’t know about?? And as far as memory serves, there is no mention that Peter “passed on” this power from Christ to the next pope.
I am not denying the benefits of confession or the good that comes out of it, and I have no problem going (though I haven’t yet, if I’m honest); I question it’s requirement for the forgiveness of sin.
Can someone help me find some answers or point me to someone who can?? Thank you!!!
Well dear friend God:
1John.1 Verses 8 to 10 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
1John.5 Verses 16 to 17 "If any one sees his brother committing what is not a mortal sin, he will ask, and God will give him life for those whose sin is not mortal. There is sin which is mortal; I do not say that one is to pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal.
John.20 Verses 20 to 23" When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." [THIS MEANS WITH GODS OWN POWER AND AUTHORITY: SEE MT 10: 1-8] NOT SHOUTING; EMPHASIS ONLY :)And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them,** “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained”**
Also if you look in the book of Leviticas chapters 4,5,6 you WILL find that Jesus didn’t invent the idea. It was OT practice too.
Lev.5: 13 “Thus the priest shall make atonement for him for the sin which he has committed in any one of these things, and he shall be forgiven. And the remainder shall be for the priest, as in the cereal offering." … Lev.6:7 “and the priest shall make atonement for him before the LORD, and he shall be forgiven for any of the things which one may do and thereby become guilty."
Lev.4: 20,26, 31 “Thus shall he do with the bull; as he did with the bull of the sin offering, so shall he do with this; and the priest shall make atonement for them, and they shall be forgiven. …] And all its fat he shall burn on the altar, like the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings; so the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin, and he shall be forgiven. …And all its fat he shall remove, as the fat is removed from the peace offerings, and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a pleasing odor to the LORD; and the priest shall make atonement for him, and he shall be forgiven.
Christ only completed, and perfected the practice in the New Covenant. Amen!