Convert Case Sparks Surge of Interest in Christianity Among Afghans


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Convert Case Sparks Surge of Interest in Christianity Among Afghans
Patrick Goodenough
International Editor

(CNSNews.com) - An Afghan Christian leader in the U.S. has welcomed reports that criminal charges may be dropped against an Afghan convert who was threatened with execution for refusing to return to Islam. The case has prompted strong international condemnation.

Hussain Andaryas said the publicity surrounding the Abdul Rahman case had resulted in a surge of interest in Christianity among Afghans, strong concern for the plight of Afghanistan’s underground Christians – and an antagonistic response from Muslims.

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Let’s hope there will be a mass conversion to Christianity. What a great way to end Islamic terrorism and repression.


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[quote=cestusdei]Let’s hope there will be a mass conversion to Christianity. What a great way to end Islamic terrorism and repression.
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I heard this man is Catholic - is that true?


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[quote=cestusdei]Let’s hope there will be a mass conversion to Christianity. What a great way to end Islamic terrorism and repression.
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What is Islamic terrorism? Show me one verse from the Quran (in context) that says to blow yourself up, kill anyone just because they aren’t Muslim, kill civilians or anything of that nature. Saying Islamic-terrorism is like saying Islamic-Christianity, they can’t be together, either it is terrrorism or Islamic, Islamic or Christian, the two are different and can’t be the same.


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CNS news, what an un-bias source. :wink:


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Emad,

If Islam is not a terrorist religion, then scream it from the rooftops!!! We have heard nothing from the Islamic community. Oh a few condemnations here and there.

The only people blowing themselves up in the name of their religion are the Islamists (Muslims). I can tell you what, if a mass Christian terrorist movement started, you would hear every leader of every denomination of Christianity on the evening news, condemning it. Christians would not stand for it. Period!!!

If Islam is truly the religion of peace then you better tell your leaders to prove it to the rest of the world. Because your terrorist brethren in the Middle East are the only voice for your religion right now. And they are speaking loud and clear.


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[quote=Pjs2ejs]Emad,

If Islam is not a terrorist religion, then scream it from the rooftops!!! We have heard nothing from the Islamic community. Oh a few condemnations here and there.

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I’m constantly puzzled by this statement. Virtually every single muslim group on the planet, even the radical ones like Al Ikhwan, has publicly condemned terrorism.


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[quote=Pjs2ejs]Emad,

If Islam is not a terrorist religion, then scream it from the rooftops!!! We have heard nothing from the Islamic community. Oh a few condemnations here and there.

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Perhaps the reason you haven’t heard anything from the Islamic community is because you weren’t trying to hear:

cair-net.org/downloads/fatwa.htm

islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=AM0109-335
muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
harunyahya.com/

Enjoy! :slight_smile:


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We hear and see real good. On 911 we saw Islam very well. When I watched the video of muslims beheading a civilian slowly I saw and heard perfectly. Islam…the religion of pieces.


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[quote=cestusdei]We hear and see real good. On 911 we saw Islam very well. When I watched the video of muslims beheading a civilian slowly I saw and heard perfectly. Islam…the religion of pieces.
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The religion of pieces? lol What kid of pieces, reses pieces, hmmm making me hungry :smiley: What does the individual acts of Muslims have to do with Islam? I hear of priests molesting kids alot, I don’t blame your religion for it. Also a lot of the drug dealers in my area have crosses around their necks, should I blame your religion?

Again you are refusing to see all the Muslim organizations and scholars below who condemn it. Are they all liars? You know what Islam is and they don’t right? :smiley:


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Nice muslims said they were going to “pull Abdul to pieces” for converting. I never have heard muslims apologize for 911 or terrorism. I don’t see them calling for reform within their religion. They blame everyone but themselves for their problems. They justify the most horrible atrocities and lie to our faces.


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[quote=cestusdei]Nice muslims said they were going to “pull Abdul to pieces” for converting. I never have heard muslims apologize for 911 or terrorism. I don’t see them calling for reform within their religion. They blame everyone but themselves for their problems. They justify the most horrible atrocities and lie to our faces.
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I am against anything done to that man, I don’t have to apologize for terrorism or 9/11 I didn’t do anything. I will condemn it, but never apologize for it. Who is justifying atrocities? Did you read how many Imams and mosques in my links condemned terrorism? Are you refusing to see that? Can you show me a list of mosques and Imams just as long as the one I showed you that support 9/11 or terrorism? Also what do you mean reform our religion? Our religion is from God, we can’t change it whenever we want, maybe you can do that, but we can’t.


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Just as I expected. No sense of shame or sorrow. Certainly no apology. No protests. Oh but you will protest and kill people over some cartoons. When I see millions of muslims protesting against the persecution of Christians, like Abdul, and joining us in fighting terrorism THEN I will believe you. Instead I remember on 911 how muslims danced in the streets for joy. I won’t forget.


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C’mon, we should be rejoicing at possible conversions, not slinging insults.


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[quote=cestusdei]Just as I expected. No sense of shame or sorrow. Certainly no apology. No protests. Oh but you will protest and kill people over some cartoons. When I see millions of muslims protesting against the persecution of Christians, like Abdul, and joining us in fighting terrorism THEN I will believe you. Instead I remember on 911 how muslims danced in the streets for joy. I won’t forget.
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I didn’t dance in the streets. My brother is a cop and have family members in the army and marines, I pay taxes, 9/11 hurt me like it hurt anyone else. I am a volunteer drug and alcohol counselor and volunteer reading to elementary school kids in poor neighborhoods. I probably do more for this country than you ever would. So I don’t need to apologize for some idiot who comes and bombs my country!!


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[quote=Emad]Perhaps the reason you haven’t heard anything from the Islamic community is because you weren’t trying to hear:

cair-net.org/downloads/fatwa.htm

islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=AM0109-335
muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
islamdenouncesterrorism.com/
harunyahya.com/

Enjoy! :slight_smile:
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It depends on whose definition of “terrorism” you are using. The founding members of the Council on American-Islamic Relations have direct ties to terrorist organizations. I think it’s funny that you brought them up.


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[quote=Semper Fi]It depends on whose definition of “terrorism” you are using. The founding members of the Council on American-Islamic Relations have direct ties to terrorist organizations. I think it’s funny that you brought them up.
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That’s a potentially misleading accusation. “Terrorist organizations” include much more than groups that threaten the US or attack civilians. Catholic bishops have been associated with “terrorist organizations” in South America in the past too…it’s not a slam dunk condemnation to say that.


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[quote=pro_universal]That’s a potentially misleading accusation. “Terrorist organizations” include much more than groups that threaten the US or attack civilians. Catholic bishops have been associated with “terrorist organizations” in South America in the past too…it’s not a slam dunk condemnation to say that.
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We are not talking about Catholic bishops here, are we? I doubt you could name one anyway. If the founding members of a group which you are quoting to prove your case has direct ties to terrorism and terrorists (i.e. people who kill innocent civilians as an end to a means), it is a logical fallacy. CAIR has been involved with “non-profit” organizations which have funneled money directly to terrorist organizations in Palestine. This is widely known.


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[quote=Semper Fi]We are not talking about Catholic bishops here, are we? I doubt you could name one anyway. If the founding members of a group which you are quoting to prove your case has direct ties to terrorism and terrorists (i.e. people who kill innocent civilians as an end to a means), it is a logical fallacy. CAIR has been involved with “non-profit” organizations which have funneled money directly to terrorist organizations in Palestine. This is widely known.
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You are missing the point. Not all organizations that are “terrorist organizations” are suicide bombing-blood gangs. As with all political lists, “terrorist organization” classifications have as much to do with who is popular as they have to do with respecting the sanctity of non-combatants.

Virtually every organization in Palestine that attacks Israel or believes the fight is a just war is labelled a terrorist organization; but not all those organizations kill civillians or engage in suicide bombings. I think it’s unjust to label every Palestinian militant a “terrorist”, as it cheapens the term and obscures the legitimate complaints that the Palestinians have.

To address the Catholic connection, look up Nicaragua…the Catholic-designed and supported Base Ecclesial Communities were a major source of support for the Sandinistas.


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[quote=pro_universal]Virtually every organization in Palestine that attacks Israel or believes the fight is a just war is labelled a terrorist organization; but not all those organizations kill civillians or engage in suicide bombings. I think it’s unjust to label every Palestinian militant a “terrorist”, as it cheapens the term and obscures the legitimate complaints that the Palestinians have.
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Um. I think I was pretty clear in my definition in who I was calling a terrorist here. Now, when you go around asking for money to help Palestinian kids find doctors and medicine, and your money ends up going to support Hezbollah or Hamas, yes you are supporting a terrorist organization. These groups use the methods above that I have described. I just don’t get why you continue to play semantics here. The facts remain the same and most people can see through your propaganda. I really have no wish to discuss anything further with you at all because you continue to minimize the effects of Muslim aggression and violence.

[quote=pro_universal]To address the Catholic connection, look up Nicaragua…the Catholic-designed and supported Base Ecclesial Communities were a major source of support for the Sandinistas.
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Also, you can continue to call it “Catholic-designed” all you want, and even if there was a Catholic bishop directly involved (which I doubt), then they would be condemned just as the IRA has been. Then again, this is not a thread about Catholics but a thread about Muslims and you yet again continue to bring up Catholics instead of talking about the issue at hand.


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