Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians


#1

news.yahoo.com/convert-pay-tax-die-islamic-state-warns-christians-181415698–business.html


#2

Sad beyond words.
May God hear the prayers of His persecuted people, strengthening their faith, keeping them safe, and obtaining justice for them.


#3

Remarkable how Islam never seems to fail to meet one’s expectations of it.

Of possible interest, from the article:

“The concept of dhimma, governing non-Muslims living under Islamic rule, dates back to the early Islamic era in the seventh century, but was largely abolished during the Ottoman reforms of the mid-19th century.”

And what was behind the Ottoman reforms? Fear of the western powers, who demanded them and had the strength and determination to back their demands.

Islamists show respect for non-Islamists only when the latter have strength and are willing to use it.


#4

Islamists show this disgusting side of dhimma which Mohammed made up and is in the Quran when they are in the majority, but when they are in the minority there is no word of this disgusting carry on, Christianity does not understand the Moslem mind, they look at us as weak , kind and peaceful, which you can see by all the people leaving Syria, Tunisia, Egypt etc, do they ask for entry into Saudi, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, no, because they would not get any help at all they all come to Christian Countries - they look for help from the Infidels and not from there own.


#5

It is even worse than that, if you can believe it. Not only are they ordered to leave, pay the jizya, or die, but also the homes of Christians in Mosul have been marked with an “n” spray-painted on their outside (for “nasara”, a term with disparaging connotations used by Muslims to refer to Christians) to identify them as now being property of the Islamic State (the Arabic headline on that webpage says “Daish [this is an Arabic name referring to Islamic State/ISIS] writes on homes of Christians in Mosul ‘Real Estate of the Islamic State’”). This is their plan: Kill any who refuse, and take the property of the majority who flee. This is their “victory”: terrorism, murder, extortion, and stealing the homes of the people they’ve forced out so that they cannot come back.

The article also mentions that Shi’ite homes are being tagged with “r” for similar purposes (short for “rawafid” or “raafidi”, apparently a disparaging term used for Shi’a Muslims; this one is news to me). I haven’t heard that they’ve been given the same ultimatum as the Christians, but the fact their homes are being tagged so that ISIS can keep tabs on them certainly doesn’t bode well for their future in the Khara’phate, either.

I hope that the gathering Iraqi militias (which are non-sectarian/religiously and ethnically pluralistic, by the way; Riyad Salem Al-Kaldani, the head of the Babylon List, recently joined them to fight ISIS at the request of Muqtada Al-Sadr that all Iraqis band together to rid their country of these scum…what an interesting world we live in these days) completely destroy these scumbags. Like their “rebel” brothers in Syria, they’re mostly foreigners who don’t care even the slightest for the country, and just want to kill people. God destroy them before they destroy anyone else.


#6

Sounds too similar to what happened to the Jews in Europe 70+ years ago.


#7

So much for the “Arab Spring”.

When’s the last time the American media dug up that old gem, anyhow?


#8

The Arab Spring was really a militant Islamist movement.


#9

The Religion of Peace= Go tell that to the Marines.


#10

The deadline is passing right now, by the way. Most Christians have left, but some remain in defiance of the order. Lord have mercy.


#11

Dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

I am starting this new thread as a way to express my deep sadness and frustration at the way the situation in Mosul, Iraq is being handled.
One of the first people to enter Mosul are now forced to flee their own home-towns. Families are being forced to flee their own homes, while others had their passports and belongings burnt by the ISIS. Here are the words of ISIS
"either accept Islam, pay extra taxes to Islamic Sharia courts, or face ‘death by the sword’."

The ISIS has already destroyed the tomb of Jonas, taken down crosses of churches, and burnt shrines. They hang up their black flags on our churches while we, in the west, are turning a blind eye. Silence from the rest of the world is hurting us Eastern Catholics. Where is humanity?

I humbly ask that you may all remember us in your prayers. Please share on Facebook, twitter, etc. news regarding this story. Write to your home-town politician. Please do not forget about the Christians in the East.

God bless you all.


#12

Sunday in Mosul
The empty church with its ghosts.
Echoes of prayer

#haiku http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqmCPSnCIAErqui.jpg:large


#13

We have violence around the world and the Christians in Moslem Countries pay the heaviest of the suffering, we need to tell these Moslem Countries your ways are not our ways if you come to live in a Western Country and you seek sanctuary from your Christian Brothers rather than your own , you have to follow the ways of this Country not the Country that you have left.

Ideally of course would be to Christianise all these Countries.

Link about Hamas from the BBC papers. to day.

bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28388875


#14

The head of Iraq’s largest church said on Sunday that Islamic State militants who drove Christians out of Mosul were worse than Mongol leader Genghis Khan and his grandson Hulagu who ransacked medieval Baghdad.

At the Vatican, Pope Francis decried what he said was the persecution of Christians in the birthplace of their faith, while U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said the Islamic State’s actions could constitute a crime against humanity.

Hundreds of Christian families left Mosul ahead of Saturday’s ultimatum, many of them stripped of their possessions as they fled for safety. They formed the remnants of a community which once numbered in the tens of thousands and traced its presence in Mosul to the earliest years of Christianity.

People of other faiths in the once diverse city, including Shi’ites, Yazidis and Shabaks, have also fled from the ultra-conservative militants, who have blown up mosques and shrines and seized property of fleeing minorities.

“The heinous crime of the Islamic State was carried out not just against Christians, but against humanity,” Sako told a special church service in east Baghdad where around 200 Muslims joined Christians in solidarity.
reuters.com/article/2014/07/20/us-iraq-security-christians-idUSKBN0FP0R120140720


#15

Can someone provide a newslink to the news story in mosul or the thread will be closed? It is in the world news forum


#16

Convert, pay tax, or die. Sounds like the US government.


#17

Before the attack, Mosul’s Christian community was estimated at 3,000. Many are believed to have already fled the city as part of an exodus of up to one-third of the population. Those who fled reported that churches and Christian-owned shops in the city were smashed.

Iraq Christians get Islamic State’s Warning.


#18

Thanks. Hopefully that will work!


#19

Following an ultimatum from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) to leave Mosul, convert to Islam, or be killed, the city’s remaining Christians left for other parts of …

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#20

One needs to remember that A Sadr is no better than the ISIS people. He’s an Iranian puppet and every bit as sectarian as ISIS is.


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