Coronavirus Medical news (NOT political)

That’s good news. The bad news is they are looking at 120k dead by summer and as high as 240k.

I suspect China already hit 120k dead. Their official report of under 4k total is a joke.

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I’ve been taking my ‘mellies’ regularly, to help me get good sleep.

It’s interesting to read it may help as a COVID treatment.

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South Korean findings suggest ‘reinfected’ coronavirus cases are false positives

But after weeks of research, they now say that such test results appear to be “false positives” caused by lingering - but likely not infectious - bits of the virus.

But in some cases, the tests may detect old particles of the virus, which may no longer pose a significant threat to the patient or others, said Seol Dai-wu, an expert in vaccine development at Seoul’s Chung-Ang University.

“The RT-PCR machine itself cannot distinguish an infectious viral particle versus a non-infectious virus particle, as the test simply detects any viral component,” Seol said.

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Good thread, it took me a few minutes to find it. Here was an interesting article. I didn’t post it because well, it might have looked a bit political to do so. BTW, I was also a bit weary that maybe it could have been a bit on the “propaganda” side… but we all can make up our minds for ourselves.

  • Had Washington acted even a month after Beijing shut down Wuhan, human cost would have been a fraction of what it is today, they say

The daily death toll from Covid-19 in the United States could have been more than halved if authorities had acted more swiftly in recommending self-isolation and the wearing of face masks, according to a new study.

Several US states began issuing stay-at-home orders in late March, while federal health authorities began recommending the use of face masks for all in early April. However, had such measures been implemented just four days earlier, the roughly 2,000 Covid-19 deaths currently being recorded each day would have been cut to less than 1,000, the study said.

So?? Comments? It also mentions how Dr. Fauci probably inferred the above though, did not say it in such exact wording.

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I think masks are the key element in the above story

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This study shows that, counter intuitively, countries at lower latitude and typically sunny countries, such as Spain and Northern Italy, had low concentrations of vitamin D and high rates of vitamin D deficiency. These countries also experienced the highest infection and death rates in Europe.

The northern latitude countries of Norway, Finland, and Sweden, have higher vitamin D levels despite less UVB sunlight exposure, because supplementation and fortification of foods is more common. These Nordic countries have lower COVID-19 infection and death rates. The correlation between low vitamin D levels and death from COVID-19 is statistically significant.

The authors propose that, whereas optimizing vitamin D levels will certainly benefit bone and muscle health, the data suggests that it is also likely to reduce serious COVID-19 complications. This may be because vitamin D is important in regulation and suppression of the inflammatory cytokine response, which causes the severe consequences of COVID-19 and ‘acute respiratory distress syndrome’ associated with ventilation and death.

Professor Rose Anne Kenny said:

“In England, Scotland and Wales, public health bodies have revised recommendations since the COVID-19 outbreak. Recommendations now state that all adults should take at least 400 IU vitamin D daily. Whereas there are currently no results from randomized controlled trials to conclusively prove that vitamin D beneficially affects COVID-19 outcomes, there is strong circumstantial evidence of associations between vitamin D and the severity of COVID-19 responses, including death.”

“This study further confirms this association. …

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It is good anyway to know where to find Vitamin D in food, health wise:
This is from webmd.com:
Foods that provide vitamin D include:

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Consut your doctor before taking vit D supplement. Nutritional Guidelines for human intake list a specific intake with an over level danger .

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Yes. Overdose with vitamin d is possible.

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https://covid19criticalcare.com/treatment-protocol/

This one is interesting. This group calls it the MATH+ protocol to be used for hospital admissions. Their take is that when a Covid-19 patient has to go to the hospital, it is already very serious and the treatment needs start right away. Their treatment protocol includes:
intravenous methylprednisone, an anti-inflammatory
intravenous ascorbic acid (vitamin C) high dose
intravenous Heparin, this is a blood thinner for preventing clots
optional thiamine (vitamin B-1), zinc and vitamin D

They mention HCQ (emphasis mine), then go into their own protocol:

Our FLCCC Working Group currently believes that, if hydroxychloroquine proves to have any benefit, it will most likely be in the earliest stage of infection, while the virus replicates and the patient is still at home, before breathing difficulties or low oxygen levels necessitate a trip to the hospital.

Our MATH+ protocol is designed for use in hospitals, to counter the body’s overwhelming inflammatory response to the virus. It is this hyper-inflammation, not the virus itself, that damages the lungs and other organs, and ultimately kills. We have found the MATH+ protocol to be the most effective way to bring down this extreme inflammatory response. The steroid M ethylprednisolone is key. Many studies (see Resources) have now proved its effectiveness, which is made more potent when administered intravenously with high doses of the antioxidant A scorbic acid (Vitamin C). We added T hiamine (Vitamin B1) as it helps protect the heart and boost the immune system. The anticoagulant H eparin is important for preventing and breaking up blood clots that have appeared in advanced cases. The + sign indicates that doctors may want to add to the formula for patients who present with different pre-existing conditions. It also notes that we will continue to tweak the formula as new data emerges.

Know, however, that timing is critical in curing COVID-19. Patients must go to the hospital as soon as they experience difficulty breathing or have a low oxygen level. The MATH+ protocol must be administered within 6 hours of the patient’s arrival in the hospital in order to work. If administered in time, this formula of FDA-approved, safe, inexpensive, and readily available drugs, can eliminate the need for ICU beds and mechanical ventilators, and put patients back on the road to good health.

Final remark is that since it’s all IV, this could be done in a field or temporary hospital if one was needed somewhere. But of course, it’s a cheap treatment that stops patients short of needing ICU and ventilators. So of course it will get talked down. I have not seen clinical info for this, but it bears looking at.

Still, the public health systems will have a far higher capability to track infections now that the technology exists for widespread and immediate testing instead of testing that took 2 days or more for results. This could be the means to keep local outbreaks much more manageable.

This is a rare complication, but well worth being aware of for those who have children. It is very important to seek care promptly. Kawasaki syndrome is rarely fatal, but it is a leading cause of acquired heart disease in the United States and it IS treatable. Getting treatment is very important!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31103-X/fulltext

In the past month we found a 30-fold increased incidence of Kawasaki-like disease. Children diagnosed after the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic began showed evidence of immune response to the virus, were older, had a higher rate of cardiac involvement, and features of MAS. The SARS-CoV-2 epidemic was associated with high incidence of a severe form of Kawasaki disease. A similar outbreak of Kawasaki-like disease is expected in countries involved in the SARS-CoV-2 epidemic.

This is the CDC advisory; the complication is referred to as multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C).
https://emergency.cdc.gov/han/2020/han00432.asp?deliveryName=USCDC_511-DM28431

Case Definition for Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C)

  • An individual aged <21 years presenting with fever*, laboratory evidence of inflammation**, and evidence of clinically severe illness requiring hospitalization, with multisystem (>2) organ involvement (cardiac, renal, respiratory, hematologic, gastrointestinal, dermatologic or neurological); AND
  • No alternative plausible diagnoses; AND
  • Positive for current or recent SARS-CoV-2 infection by RT-PCR, serology, or antigen test; or COVID-19 exposure within the 4 weeks prior to the onset of symptoms

*Fever >38.0°C for ≥24 hours, or report of subjective fever lasting ≥24 hours
**Including, but not limited to, one or more of the following: an elevated C-reactive protein (CRP), erythrocyte sedimentation rate (ESR), fibrinogen, procalcitonin, d-dimer, ferritin, lactic acid dehydrogenase (LDH), or interleukin 6 (IL-6), elevated neutrophils, reduced lymphocytes and low albumin

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There have been claims that #COVID19 has acquired mutations leading to more transmissible strains. We formally tested whether this was the case using 15,000 #SARSCoV2 genomes from all over the world: … and the answer is no, not at all!

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Face masks science and some history.

Why Face Masks Don’t Work: A Revealing Review - Oral Health Group
Yesterday’s Scientific Dogma is Today’s Discarded Fable

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts have mixed answers. | Live Science

Do face masks work? | Spectator USA

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