Darwin: "genius... tends to be inherited... insanity and deteriorated mental powers


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Darwin, Charles. 1871, 1874, 1888. The Descent of Man. Chapter 2 - On the Manner of Development of Man from Some Lower Form
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Notes:
* Variation of Animals and Plants under Domestication,
vol. ii., chap. xii.
(2) Hereditary Genius: an Inquiry into its Laws and
Consequences
, 1869.
A paragraph:
I have elsewhere
so fully discussed the subject of
Inheritance, that I need here add hardly anything. A
greater number of facts have been collected with respect
to the transmission of the most trifling, as well as of the
most important characters in man, than in any of the
lower animals; though the facts are copious enough with
respect to the latter.

 So in regard to mental qualities, 
 their transmission is manifest in our dogs, horses, and 
 other domestic animals.  Besides special tastes and 
 habits, general intelligence, courage, bad and good 
 temper, &c., are certainly transmitted.  With man we see 
 similar facts in almost every family; and we now know, 
 through the admirable labours of Mr. Galton,*(2) that 
 genius which implies a wonderfully complex combination 
 of high faculties, tends to be inherited; and, on the other 
 hand, it is too certain that insanity and deteriorated 
 mental powers likewise run in families.

Compare that 2nd Darwin block-- especially its last sentence-- with this Hitler:
hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch02.html
It ‘the People’s State’] must see to it that only
those who are healthy shall beget children; that there is
only one infamy, namely, for parents that are ill or show
hereditary defects to bring children into the world and that
in such cases it is a high honour to refrain from doing so.
==
the State will
have to avail itself of modern medical discoveries. It must
proclaim as unfit for procreation all those who are inflicted
with some visible hereditary disease or are the carriers of
it; and practical measures must be adopted to have such
people rendered sterile.
==
Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy and
unfit must not perpetuate their own suffering in the bodies
of their children.
==
illness is not a disgrace but an
unfortunate accident which has to be pitied, yet… it is a
crime and a disgrace to make this affliction all the worse
by passing on disease and defects to innocent creatures
out of mere egotism. And the State must also teach the
people that it is an expression of a really noble nature
and that it is a humanitarian act worthy of admiration if a
person who innocently suffers from hereditary disease
refrains from having a child of his own
==
If for a period of only 600 years those individuals would
be sterilized who are physically degenerate or mentally
diseased, humanity would not only be delivered from an
immense misfortune
==
we should have at least the beginnings
of a race from which all those germs would be eliminated
which are today the cause of our moral and physical
decadence.
==
succeed in bringing about a
nobler era, in which men will no longer pay exclusive
attention to breeding and rearing pedigree dogs and
horses and cats, but will endeavour to improve the breed
of the human race itself.


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Darwin:
Both sexes ought to refrain from marriage if
they are in any marked degree inferior in body or mind;
but such hopes are Utopian and will never be even
partially realised until the laws of inheritance are
thoroughly known. Everyone does good service, who
aids towards this end. When the principles of breeding
and inheritance are better understood, we shall not hear
ignorant members of our legislature rejecting with scorn a
plan for ascertaining whether or not consanguineous
marriages are injurious to man.
in
an exercise: parallels between 1871 Darwin & 1924/5 Hitler?
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4 more Hitler-Darwin parallels
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Kill/ death to [Darwin]"imbecile, maimed, and other useless members of society"
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Darwin:
genius… tends to be inherited…
it is too certain that insanity and deteriorated
mental powers likewise run in families.
compare Hitler:
Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy and
unfit must not perpetuate their own suffering in the bodies
of their children.
Hitler:
the State will
have to avail itself of modern medical discoveries. It must
proclaim as unfit for procreation all those who are inflicted
with some visible hereditary disease or are the carriers of it

Darwin:
in regard to mental qualities,
their transmission is manifest in our dogs, horses, and
other domestic animals.
compare Hitler:
succeed in bringing about a
nobler era, in which men will no longer pay exclusive
attention to breeding and rearing pedigree dogs and
horses and cats, but will endeavour to improve the breed
of the human race itself.

Hitler’s human breeding plan using [1871 Darwin]“careful selection” + mutations
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Darwin on [1871 Darwin]“careful selection” in connection with the breeding of humans
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Darwin on selection of Spartan children
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1940 Nazi film "All Life is Struggle"
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Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah’s Arrival
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Hitler’s actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social Darwinist vision
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#3

As I mentioned before, Darwin could be Satan Incarnate this doesn’t make the evidence for macroevolution any less valid. Good night to all these evolution threads. :yawn: And I noticed I even missed one (the ID Dover Trial thread) in the secular news forums which I rarely visit. I need to “get out” more. :smiley:

Phil P


#4

Reductio ad Hitlerum


#5

[quote=PhilVaz]As I mentioned before, Darwin could be Satan Incarnate this doesn’t make the evidence for macroevolution any less valid.
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What’s the meaning of “macroevolution” as you use it?

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1933 and 1940 Goldschmidt on macro- vs. microevolution
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ID + common descent: A Proposal
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religious faith and common descent
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1910s remarks by Caullery, Edmund B. Wilson, and Bateson on the idea of top-down unfolding/ [Bateson]"unpacking of an original complex which contained within itself the whole range of diversity which living things present"
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legerdemain in the use of the word 'evolution’
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Macbeth on phylogeny trees
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1977 G&E on diagrams and the uninitiated
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1980 Gould on the tips and nodes of trees
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Macbeth on Faulty Extrapolation in Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection
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Essay on Problems with Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection
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historical background to rise and fall of the Synthetic Euphoria; 1936 A. Franklin Shull
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1969 Frank Salisbury
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Gould’s 1980 "Is a new and general theory of evolution emerging?"
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[quote=ESimmons]Reductio ad Hitlerum
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I do claim that women and men ought to carefully select their sex
partners with a view to the well-being and health and vigor of any
children that might be produced through sex. Carefully-applied
selection is very important for the gradual improvement of humankind. About 600 years worth of such selection would do wonders

Darwin
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In Sparta, also, a form of selection
was followed, for it was enacted that all children should
be examined shortly after birth; the well-formed and
vigorous being preserved, the others left to perish.*(3)

 *(3) Mitford's _History of Greece_, vol. i., p. 282. It
 appears from a passage in Xenophon's _Memorabilia_, B.
 ii. 4 (to which my attention has been called by the Rev.
 J. N. Hoare), that it was a well recognised principle with
 the Greeks, that men ought to select their wives with a
 view to the health and vigour of their children.  The
 Grecian poet, Theognis, who lived 550 B. C., clearly saw
 how important selection, if carefully applied, would be for
 the improvement of mankind.  He saw, likewise, that
 wealth often checks the proper action of sexual selection.

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