Death of St. Joseph


#1

Given the protection that the Holy Family had, and that Joseph seemed to have been out of the picture since the miracle of the changing of water to wine at the wedding at Cana, what do you think the cause of his death might have been?


#2

Y’know, I don’t even know what tradition says about this, but I suspect that it was illness or old age. Good question!


#3

I remember hearing once that it was some sort of peaceful death, but can’t remember if the person was referring to an accepted source of the church or saying something not to disturb me, as I was quite young when I asked the question.


#4

I know that St. Joseph is the Patron of a Happy Death, as tradition holds that He died in the arms of Mary and Jesus. May we all receive the same grace!


#5

I wonder if any of the ‘unapproved’ books of the New Testament would have any stories about St. Joseph. I.E. the Gospel of Peter, Nicademus, Mary, etc.


#6

Peaceful death would be my last guess, considering how many Christians were martyred in the early days.


#7

[quote=Jeremy]Peaceful death would be my last guess, considering how many Christians were martyred in the early days.
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Um, he’s out of the picture long before there are any “Christians”.


#8

[quote=Jeremy]Peaceful death would be my last guess, considering how many Christians were martyred in the early days.
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If St. Joseph died before Jesus was commanded to perform a miricale and make wine as ordered by Blessed Mary, then wouldn’t he have been a Jew and not a Christian? The Catholic Church (i.e. Christian Church) was not founded or given its mission untill pentecost. Could there be Christians before Christ founded His Catholic Church, His body on earth, on pentecost? Would the people who died prior to that have been Jews? Could there have been Catholics (i.e. Christians) before pentecost but Jesus just had not yet given His Catholic Church its mission and authority till pentecost because Jesus had not yet been crucified?

I think St. Joseph died a Jew, though he may have known of the special role of Jesus as the Messiah.

Uhm??? Did Jesus die a Jew too?:hmmm:


#9

[quote=Malachi4U]I think St. Joseph died a Jew, though he may have known of the special role of Jesus as the Messiah./QUOTE]

We would not know for sure, but I think it would have been possible for St. Joseph to know about Jesus. At the time of St. Joseph’s peaceful death…i.e. he could have died in his sleep while having a dream. And, maybe this dream revealed to him what his earthly son Jesus was to become in His fullness, and it was his Son to reveal this to him at the time of Joseph’s earthly death.

Dr did he have to wait when Christ, opened the gates of Heaven and then Joseph knew?
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#10

Let’s remember that the Angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph, also. He KNEW he was protecting the Messiah and the Mother of God.

I’ve always wondered what happened to him, how he died.


#11

he was a carpenter; it was before OSHA. I would say a workplace injury.


#12

No one else hast psoted it, so, from the 1911 or so Catholic Encyclopedia:
[left]This is the last we hear of St. Joseph in the sacred writings, and we may well suppose that Jesus’s foster-father died before the beginning of Savior’s public life. In several circumstances, indeed, the Gospels speak of the latter’s mother and brothers (Matthew 12:46; Mark 3:31; Luke 8:19; John 7:3), but never do they speak of His father in connection with the rest of the family; they tell us only that Our Lord, during His public life was referred to as the son of Joseph (John 1:45; 6:42; Luke 4:22) the carpenter (Matthew 13:55). Would Jesus, moreover, when about die on the Cross, have entrusted His mother to John’s care, had St. Joseph been still alive? According to the apocryphal “Story of Joseph the Carpenter”, the holy man reached his hundred and eleventh year when he died, on 20 July (A. D. 18 or 19). St. Epiphanius gives him ninety years of age at the time of his demise; and if we are to believe the Venerable Bede, he was buried in the Valley of Josaphat. In truth we do not know when St. Joseph died; it is most unlikely that he attained the ripe old age spoken of by the “Story of Joseph” and St. Epiphanius. The probability is that he died and was buried at Nazareth.
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[quote=Edwin1961]I wonder if any of the ‘unapproved’ books of the New Testament would have any stories about St. Joseph. I.E. the Gospel of Peter, Nicademus, Mary, etc.
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Among these apocryphal productions dealing more or less extensively with some episodes of St. Joseph’s life may be noted the so-called “Gospel of James”, the “Pseudo-Matthew”, the “Gospel of the Nativity of the Virgin Mary”, the “Story of Joseph the Carpenter”, and the “Life of the Virgin and Death of Joseph”.

The full article is here.


#13

Following up on Edwin’s previous post and mine as well, according to The History of Joseph the Carpenter, he dies at the age of 111, after being warned by an angel, when a plague of sorts is sweeping through Nazareth.

Remember, though, that the book in question was rejected as part of the Holy Canon of scripture and should not be treated as such.


#14

http://home.att.net/~tom.wineman/Stj-l-j.jpg

Grew up looking at this window so I guess that is how I picture his death.


#15

[quote=Didi]I know that St. Joseph is the Patron of a Happy Death, as tradition holds that He died in the arms of Mary and Jesus. May we all receive the same grace!
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I don’t know, but I think I like Didi’s idea.


#16

What does “but was translated” mean?


#17

[quote=Angainor]What does “but was translated” mean?
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Some use the word “raptured” I suppose. Enoch and Elijah were “translated” as well, taken up by God without going through the process of dying.


#18

[quote=Timidity]Following up on Edwin’s previous post and mine as well, according to The History of Joseph the Carpenter, he dies at the age of 111, after being warned by an angel, when a plague of sorts is sweeping through Nazareth.

Remember, though, that the book in question was rejected as part of the Holy Canon of scripture and should not be treated as such.
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Hmmm. If Joseph was 111 when he died, and he died before Jesus began His ministry at age 30, then Joseph would have been around 80 to 90 years of age when he was betrothed to Mary.


#19

[quote=catholic2]Hmmm. If Joseph was 111 when he died, and he died before Jesus began His ministry at age 30, then Joseph would have been around 80 to 90 years of age when he was betrothed to Mary.
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Yep. He was chosen by lot becuase Mary was too old to stay at the Temple anymore.


#20

WOW!! :eek:

Look at that stained glass. Imagine being on your deathbed with Jesus standing at your side with His arm around you and Mary kneeling and praying at your feet.

No wonder he’s Patron of a Happy Death/Departing Souls!

I don’t know of any teaching on this. I’d have thought it would be addressed somewhere in the apochrypha, though.


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