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Pages 80-82 tfp.org/images/books/Defending_A_Higher_Law.pdf
I clicked on this doc. from another post and found it an excellent read and explains a lot regarding the arguments posed by homosexuality in today's world.
I agree with all contained in the doc, however I still feel that there was not enough said regarding why a young boy/girl is attracted to the same sex, in the first place. Homosexuality has been with us since the beginning of time, so has always been an aberation in humanity. I do not believe it is genetic, and he mentions this fact through studies carried out with identical twins showing that not all twins will have the same sexual orientation. The doc., also states how gravely sinful the act is, mentioning sodom and gomarrah, throughout.
I still just do not get, though, how a young person would actively choose to be gay, and to also know it was a very sinful lifestyle choice. However, you will hear or read about young people knowing they are gay/were gay, from a very young age. If everyone started out with a heterosexual orientation and then made the choice to be gay because they thought it was more fun, more promiscious, etc., well then I could fully understand it to be sin of choice.
Any insights would be most welcome.
There is also the possibility that it is hormonal, it has been show by studies that women who are very stressed in the first six weeks of pregnancy have a six fold increase in the chance that her son will be "gay", it also typically causes their daughters to be even more feminine. If a person is gay then there is a substantially higher chance for male family members on the mother's side to be gay which means that there are potentially genetic factors in the mother that can cause hormonal defects during pregnancy resulting in a higher chance of a gay son.
Even if is proven that nature plays no part that does not necessarily prove that it is choice, early childhood environment could also play a part in it (although when some get pet crushes at age 4 on the same sex that has to be some really early factors).
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As far as I know, the Church acknowledges that homosexual orientation is not necessarily a conscience choice for some people. I don't know if they go so far as to concede it may be genetic, but I just think they are silent on the issue one way or the other. At the same time, the Church accepts the many scientific studies which strongly suggest that SSA is a "learned" orientation, which is to say that it is common for it to be clearly non-genetic.
In either case, assuming this occurs very young in age (which it seems to in most cases), the Church sympathizes deeply with the burden faced by those afflicted, offers them counsel and guidance, strongly admonishes against discrimination from others, and attempts to guide them gently toward an understanding of their state in life and the need for chastity. That's not to say all Catholics share this sentiment, but most devout ones do, and certainly it is the overall Church's stance on the issue.
In the case where it is clearly non-genetic, the draw towards SS orientation is difficult to pin down, and certainly has many variables. The age where such an orientation begins is obviously a major factor in determining motivation and awareness in the individual. Some argue that very young children who were prematurely exposed to sexuality, i.e. movies, television, magazines, pornography, promiscuity of older siblings/adults in the family, perhaps sexual abuse to some degree, etc. are quite susceptible of later homosexual leanings. My guess is that it is because, while they are exposed to it and intrigued by it, at that young age they have no natural tendencies toward the opposite sex yet, and having already normally, if not exclusively, surrounded themselves with same sex friends, this new-found intrigue is played out, or experimented, or fantasized about, with those kids.
I think it's also important to note that not all who identify themselves as homosexual are truly oriented SEXUALLY to the same sex, but rather identify with the identity, the plight, or the community that is homosexual. Often they do not fair well intimately with the opposite sex, regardless of their sexual attraction to them. And they find friendship, equality, and certainly a non-judgmental environment within the homosexual community. So they "become" homosexual, all the while, they have no inclination to actually lay down with the same sex.
Thanks for linking to the document. Will read it soon.
The Church makes no claim to the etiology of homosexuality, it is actually irrelevant to the Church's teaching, everyone is called to chastity.