Democrats Are Hinting Foul Play In South Carolina Senate Primary

npr.org/blogs/politicaljunkie/2010/06/10/127741230/democrats-are-hinting-foul-play-in-south-carolina-senate-primary

The news about the Democratic primary winner for the Senate in South Carolina continues to get more and more complex, if not bizarre. So bizarre, in fact, that Rep. Jim Clyburn (D), the House majority whip, is suspicious and is calling for an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's office.

Alvin Greene, an unemployed Army veteran who appeared on no one's radar leading up to Tuesday, won his party's primary to run against GOP Sen. Jim DeMint in November. Receiving more than 100,000 votes, Greene defeated — and it wasn't even close — the party choice, former state legislator Vic Rawl.

Meanwhile, since his victory, the Associated Press has reported that Greene was arrested back in November and charged with showing obscene Internet photos to a college student. That was too much for state Democratic chair Carol Fowler, who called on Greene to withdraw from the race. He has refused.

It has to be among the more bizarre stories of the year. As the AP's Meg Kinnard points out, Greene didn't raise any money and didn't have a website: "Greene was considered such a long shot that his opponent and media didn't even bother to check his background." If they had, she writes, "they would have discovered" the felony obscenity charge.

The only "foul play" is once again people not paying attention to who they are voting for.

I guess they have to find some way to talk themselves out of the mess they are in. Probably George Bush did it.:)

I think the funniest side to Democrats knee-jerk reaction of always blaming Republicans when things go wrong is that they are basically in effect saying "We're powerless".

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The only "foul play" is once again people not paying attention to who they are voting for.

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The other "foul play" is that folks are sick of what goes on in Washington, and want to clean house - one way or another. :confused:

So does this mean I can expect the Democratic party to clean house from the top down? If not than I suggest they hush.

He didn't even know about TARP.

His actual first name is Chad.

I rather doubt this was some diabolical Republican conspiracy.
Greene must have had help along the line.

Someone really wants to shake up DeMint.

"Richard Harpootlian, the former chairman of the South Carolina Democratc Party, just told All Things Considered host Melissa Block that he has questions about where Greene got the $10,400 to pay that filing fee. He said there are some "telltale signs ... that raise questions. ... I learned today that he has been appointed a public defender — which means back in November when he was arrested he filled out an affidavit of indigency. ... Yet in March he comes up with $10,400 to file for the United States Senate. ... That raises a question."

"Of course, nobody was, or is, going to defeat DeMint this year. But Congressman Clyburn says that's not the point. "There were some real shenanigans going on in the South Carolina primary," Clyburn said this morning on Bill Press' radio program. "I don't know if he was a Republican plant; he was someone's plant."
Clyburn would love to know "whether a third party gave Greene the money for the $10,400 filing fee, a violation of federal campaign finance laws." The congressman says that's a lot of money for someone who is unemployed"

Campaign finance disclosure anyone? If someone gave Greene money which was later used to file for candidacy, the money was Greene's to do with. The immediate speculation that this is all financial fowl play is just turkey talk. Being unemployed does not automatically mean one is dirt poor. I know friends who have been unemployed for longer periods who have enough cash on hand for the filing fee. It's not likely he would file randomly unless he knew there would be support after filing,

I find the number of votes to be much more suspect: "Receiving more than 100,000 votes, Greene defeated — and it wasn't even close — the party choice, former state legislator Vic Rawl.".For someone who didn't even campaign to win 100,000+ votes in a statewide election is about as likely as winning a mega-millions lottery without buying a ticket.

I'm not Olbermann's biggest fan, but did anyone here watch that interview? There is definitely something bizarre going on. Remember that South Carolina has open primaries.

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I'm not Olbermann's biggest fan, but did anyone here watch that interview? There is definitely something bizarre going on. Remember that South Carolina has open primaries.

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I agree. How does someone who does no campaigning and doesn't appear at any events, meetings, or fundraisers for the Democratic Party win 59% of a statewide vote in a primary for the Democratic Party? No one even knows who this guy is except that he's unemployed, was involuntarily discharged from both the Army and the Air Force, and is currently facing felony charges.

It is bizarre, but why run interference on such a safe seat? It would be a certain recipie for defeat, and/or criminal charges.

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It is bizarre, but why run interference on such a safe seat? It would be a certain recipie for defeat, and/or criminal charges.

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It will be interesting to see if the Democratic Party chooses to back him.

[quote="EmperorNapoleon, post:11, topic:201517"]
I agree. How does someone who does no campaigning and doesn't appear at any events, meetings, or fundraisers for the Democratic Party win 59% of a statewide vote in a primary for the Democratic Party? No one even knows who this guy is except that he's unemployed, was involuntarily discharged from both the Army and the Air Force, and is currently facing felony charges.

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Too bad the Democrat Party didnt vet him. but then maybe they did and didnt find anything wrong with a man facing sexual harrassment and pornography charges.

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Probably George Bush did it.:)

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More like Carl Rove.

This is the same state where Bush slandered McCain.

bartcopnation.com/dc/dcboard.php?forum=8&topic_id=522&az=show_topic

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It is bizarre, but why run interference on such a safe seat? It would be a certain recipie for defeat, and/or criminal charges.

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Exactly but it's been done before. Reminds me of Nixon with Watergate. Why?

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Too bad the Democrat Party didnt vet him. but then maybe they did and didnt find anything wrong with a man facing sexual harrassment and pornography charges.

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Eh, you know liberals.

His last name is Greene. They probably mistook him for being part of the Green party, or just liked the name.

Does anyone else feel that we are living in some kind of Twilight Zone?:eek:

[quote="ProVobis, post:16, topic:201517"]
Exactly but it's been done before. Reminds me of Nixon with Watergate. Why?

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Because you dont want to admit the gross incompetence of the South Carolina Democart Party. NOBODY forced anyone to vote for this guy. The fact that thousands of Democrats voted for him without knowing anything about him speaks volumes.

I suspect by tomorrow Olberman will be caliming that the Republican party sent meaasge to all South Carolina Republicans via their secret decoder rings to vote fo his guy.

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Too bad the Democrat Party didnt vet him. but then maybe they did and didnt find anything wrong with a man facing sexual harrassment and pornography charges.

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Greene has yet to register with the Secretary of the Senate or the FEC. He wasn't backed by the Democratic Party so why would they have to vet him? He's a nobody who somehow managed to get on the ballot without even meeting the legal requirements to do so. Not only that, he's unemployed and somehow managed to come up with over $10,000 at the drop of a hat when just a few months ago he couldn't even find the money to post bail. AND he somehow managed to get 59% of a statewide vote without even campaigning. Something shady is going on here.

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