Dems' new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention


#1

CNN:

Dems’ new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention
Sen. Barbara Boxer, a veteran of Democratic politics, says she never saw anything quite like this before.Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults, including crude comments about the female anatomy. It was all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into chaos.
“I was not able to stop these people for doing what they did,” Boxer, a Hillary Clinton supporter, told CNN. “Apparently they’ve done it before. … This group of about 100 were very vocal, and I can’t describe it – disrespectful doesn’t even explain it, it was worse than that.”

Boxer is hardly the lone Clinton supporter to experience such harassment on the campaign trail. Several top Democrats told CNN publicly and privately that the energy and enthusiasm of Sanders supporters has at times descended into incendiary attacks that threaten to tear apart efforts to unite Democrats against Donald Trump. Several female senators told CNN the attacks have been misogynistic.
What’s more, many Democrats fear that if Sanders does not rein in his supporters, the same ugly scene that occurred in Las Vegas last weekend could replicate itself in the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia.

It’s an interesting year, the fault lines in both parties have been exposed for all to see. Trump managed a hostile takeover of the GOP while Sanders has been doing well enough among those mad at the Democratic establishment to hang in this far.

Maybe we’ actually see a viable third or even fourth party arise.


#2

Not likely such would succeed. You don’t start at the top, you work up for the bottom.


#3

I read Hillary has backed out of her final debate with Bernie, it was planned for CA.


#4

Yawn. No fear at all. Bernie will enthusiastically support Hillary at the Convention and most of his followers will follow him to her.


#5

They follow Bernie like the new Play Station game called Democratic socialism. Bernie just wants to promote socialism and as nice as the kids are, well that is highly contested by the DNC who claims intentional violent protest and used Nevada as an example. Simply not gonna happen because thats Crooked Hillaries party who flip flopped on just about everything so far as I see leaning way over to socialism. And what she didn’t in truth flip on she probably lied about. Because thats what shes known for? Look at that WV conversation. Hillary has major issues and is basically old news. I don’t believe most will follow her. They are not concerned with republicans but the crooked DNC and Debbie narrow minded all Hillary, Wasserman. :slight_smile:


#6

Strangely, I find myself mostly agreeing with this.

I don’t think many Sanders supporters will vote Republican.

Most will go with Hillary because she’s the only other “abortion on demand” candidate left in the race.

But some won’t switch to Hillary, they just won’t vote. As the campaign progresses, I expect to see more exposition of Hillary’s selling influence for money. I see more exposition of her having started a war that terrorists are winning, perhaps for money in that instance too. I see more exposition of her role on the board of directors of Walmart, the “bête noir” of many liberals. Then there is her getting “influence money” from Wall Street. None of that is going to remain attractive to Sanders people if they learn about it.


#7

Nah, we talked about this already. Not everyone who votes for a democrat, votes for them as you and others here like to say, “abortion on demand”.

What you and others who say that are just putting unwanted fear on them that’s not necessary. Your making them feel guilty for something that maybe you or others have inside and are trying to pass onto others.

Minorities like blacks and Hispanics are not voting for a republican bc of their stance against immigration and how much they stop minorities from succeeding. At no point are these individuals voting for them bc they are rooting for abortion on demand.

Women, have being voting democrat and not all are in favor of abortion but they see the Democratic Party as more oriented towards women equality at the work place. Once again nothing to do in regards to abortion on demand.

Just drop the line, it’s getting old and not everyone who votes for a democrat supports their moral views.


#8

Why do you say “abortion on demand” candidate? Democratic voters are less likely than Republicans to be single issue voters on the topic of reproductive freedom.


#9

That’s his thing don’t worry. In his opinion everyone who votes for the democrats or is not going to vote, according to him is supporting “abortion on demand”.

I guess he knows what is everyone’s heart and mind when they go vote.


#10

The phrase polls well according to Frank Lutz the speech guru.


#11

nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bernie-sanders-supporters-nevada.html?_r=0

Thrown chairs. Leaked cellphone numbers. Death threats spewed across the Internet.

No, this is not the work of Donald J. Trump supporters, some of whom have harassed critics of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. It was angry supporters of Senator Bernie Sanders who were directing their ire at the Nevada Democratic Party — and its chairwoman, Roberta Lange — over a state convention on Saturday that they think was emblematic of a rigged political system.

“It’s been vile,” said Ms. Lange, who riled Sanders supporters by refusing their requests for rule changes at the event in Las Vegas. “It’s been threatening messages, threatening my family, threatening my life, threatening my grandchild.”


#12

Interesting how the Dem party insists that those disagree just need to shut up. No disagreement allowed.

Guttmacher Institute (hardly a prolife organization) estimates that about 28% of American women have had abortions. Among most of them, others were complicit in the act. That’s a built-in constituency for the Democrats, certainly not for Republicans.

Hispanic voting is its own thing.

Regardless, I never said no Democrats or people who vote Democrat believe the Democrat line that the party helps the poor and working class. But they’re deceived if they believe it, since the party has done nothing at all for the truly poor or working people for decades. Perhaps in this election, more will realize it, but many won’t.

Knowing that made my leaving the party easier. Knowing its devotion to abortion was incompatible with Catholicism (and now they have added homosexual marriage to their main values) was enough for me to do it. But also knowing the old Dem party emphasis on helping the poor and working people had utterly died out, made it easier. There just wasn’t anything left but abortion on demand that the party truly worked for.


#13

True. The simply enable them to continue to promote evil as long as the candidate/party support their self interest or pays lip service to them being victims. :thumbsup:


#14

Oh no I don’t think I know everyone’s heart and mind. I only hope to counter the promotion of abortion in this election among those who value the teachings of the Church more than they value the teachings of Hillary Clinton. But they need to hear voices other than those who promote abortion supporting politicians.

If one supports the abortion promoter, one supports abortion. If one fails to oppose an evil when he can do it, he’s complicit in it.

Not hard. Pro-abortion Liberals would accept the truth of that in any context other than when it comes to abortion. “If one supports the neocon, one supports war…if one fails to oppose the racist, he’s complicit in racism”. They would accept that in an instant.

It’s only when it comes to abortion that they don’t accept the truth of it.


#15

This is an election where the behavior of large chunks of each party is unpredictable.


#16

Exit polls: Nearly half of W.Va. Sanders backers would vote Trump


#17

I do believe Trump will pull many voters from the democrat side.


#18

You are SO right. For Bernie and Hillary both (and their disciples), it’s all about “abortion on command!” Nothing else matters. That’s been clear in this race.

Vote Republican? Okay, but first you’ll have to point me in the direction of the “Republican Party.” I mean, what in the world???!!!


#19

Fair enough, lets put the Churches #1 morality/human rights teaching aside with abortion, Lets look at the real #1 issue of economy and jobs. Bill and Hillary ushered in NAFTA? Why in the world would we trust Bill as Hillary states to be in charge of jobs as VP? :confused:

That was an epic failure we are still staggering like a beat boxer and attempting to recover from?


#20

The Democrats lost West Virginia by 27%. I don’t think that is particularly indicative of the nation as a whole.


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