Did Augustine believe in transubstantiation?


#1

I had a debate with a protestant friend and he brought up two things about the Eucharist that I would like to refute but don’t know how.

  1. He said that transubstantiation would be cannabalism and since that was wrong in the old testament, it wouldn’t be right now.

  2. St. Augustine didn’t believe in transubstantiation.

Do you have anything I could say or show to refute this?

Thanks,
Geoff


#2

[font=Times New Roman]The reason why so many of the unbelieving Jews walked away from Jesus was precisely because they too thought that what Jesus was saying sounded like cannibalism (Jn. 6:52-55;66). Those that believed him and stayed dispite this “hard saying” would come to find out that they would receive his body and blood in the unbloody sacrament of the Eucharist.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Transubstantiation means the change of the substance of bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ at the consecration of the Mass. After the consecration, the bread and wine remain only in appearance. What happens at each consecration, first happened at the Last Supper.[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Knowing that, it would appear from the following quotes that St. Augustine very much believed in transubstantiation:[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]“Christ was carried in his own hands when, referring to his own body, he said, ‘This is my body’ [Matt. 26:26]. For he carried that body in his hands” (Explanations of the Psalms 33:1:10 [A.D. 405]). [/font]

[font=Times New Roman]“I promised you [new Christians], who have now been baptized, a sermon in which I would explain the sacrament of the Lord’s Table. . . . That bread which you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the body of Christ. That chalice, or rather, what is in that chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the blood of Christ” (Sermons 227 [A.D. 411]). [/font]

[font=Times New Roman]“What you see is the bread and the chalice; that is what your own eyes report to you. But what your faith obliges you to accept is that the bread is the body of Christ and the chalice is the blood of Christ. This has been said very briefly, which may perhaps be sufficient for faith; yet faith does not desire instruction” (ibid., 272). [/font]

[font=Times New Roman]Nobody eats this flesh without previously adoring it (Explanation of the Psalms 99).[/font]

[font=Times New Roman]He took flesh from the flesh of Mary. . . and gave us the same flesh to be eaten unto salvation . . . we do sin by not adoring (Ibid).[/font]
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