Zerinus - regarding your blog about Catholics rejecting LDS baptism:
"…the baptism of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the baptism of a different gospel dispensation; and if a person wants to “cross-over” from one gospel dispensation to another, the baptism of the other dispensation will not and cannot be regarded as valid. [Emphasis added.]
This puts a much braver face on it for the Catholic Church, and is certainly the most intelligent and face-saving explanation that a Catholic could give."
I can only speak for me but I’d tell you I’m not at all worried about saving face for the LDS - simply not a concern.
"The main reason for making that decision I believe was in retaliation to the LDS policy of not recognizing the validity their baptism! " I can only speak for me, but I seriously doubt Cardinal/Pope Ratzinger is at all concerned with retaliating against the LDS Church.
“In fact, the LDS Church has never recognized the validity of baptisms performed by any church other than its own. That is because LDS doctrine teaches that baptism is a sacrament that needs to be performed by proper priesthood authority, and traditional Christianity is apostate and no longer possesses the necessary priesthood authority to perform a valid baptism (or any other sacrament, for that matter).” And you wonder why we might change our minds on accepting your baptism and why we hesitate to call you Christian?
“The prime mover behind this decision was the Catholic Churches in the United States, where the Protestant Churches had already made the same decision, who then put pressure on the Catholics in the US to do the same thing.”
Right. You know this? You have evidence of this? You talked with these Protestants about this? I went to a Baptist church for over 20 years and we never talked about Catholics - good or bad. This is REAL speculation on your part.
“The Protestant and Evangelical churches, at whose behest the RCC has almost certainly done this, are its worst enemies, and seek its utter destruction. The Catholic Church has no greater friend in the world than the LDS Church. The LDS Church is not an enemy of the Catholic Church; whereas the Protestant Churches are, and have always been.”
Have you been Evangelical or Protestant Zerinus? How do you know this? I grew up Evangelical - Baptists do not, as an organization, hate the Catholic Church. They think it’s wrong, they believe in the solas and once saved always saved but hate it and seek it’s destruction - I may be wrong but that’s rather strong. Also, if E and P hate the RCC so much, why would the RCC give in to this supposed request you imagine? Finally, it would appear that the LDS church is against, at least in small part, all other Christian churches as shown through the words of your prophets and presidents regarding the supposed apostasy. You accuse the E/P churches of calling the RCC the whore of Babylon but have done the same things yourself. Pot calling the kettle black don’t you think?
“But the ultimate question is, does anybody care?” Yes, the Catholic Church cares. We want people to have a ‘valid’ baptism and have their sins removed.
“But the ultimate question is, does anybody care? The LDS Church certainly doesn’t, and I doubt if anybody else does. At the time that the RCC announced its decision, the LDS Church’s official spokesman, speaking on behalf the Church, stated that the LDS Church was “neither concerned nor offended that the Catholic Church has determined not to recognize Latter-day Saint baptisms”. I personally see in this a pretty damning and devastating response.”
And how does that square with “The Catholic Church has no greater friend in the world than the LDS Church. The LDS Church is not an enemy of the Catholic Church?” Seems somewhat unfriendly to me. And if it’s damning and devastating what does that say about what you truly think of the RCC? Feels like you’re not out to educate and explain Zerinus but to stick it to us because you think you found an inconsistency. I could scream anit-Catholic, ant-Catholic, but you’d have to get in line for that.