[quote="Scoobyshme, post:4, topic:217389"]
Liz, I can tell you've been thinkin'! :)
Well, here's what I think. When we sin, we are due at that time, some temporal punishment. When we go to Confession, even without perfect contrition, we are forgiven our sins. We will not go to hell because of them. However, the temporal punishment we get due to those sins, remains. That's why we receive a penance from the priest. But, consider the following hypothetical Confession:
"Bless me, Father for I have sinned... These are my sins, 'I murdered twenty-three people, missed Mass for 20 years without sufficient reason, and told a thousand lies. That's all. " Father: "Okay, my son, are you sorry for your sins?" Penitent, "Yes, Father." Father: "Good. Then, for your penance, I would like you to say three Our Father's and three Hail Mary's. Now make a good Act of Contrition and I'll give you absolution."
Do you see a sort of imbalance/disconnect in this? He murdered a bunch of people, missed Mass for 20 years, and told 1000 lies, and all he gets is three Our Father's and three Hail Mary's?! That probably didn't even take much of an edge off the temporal punishment due to him! So, he's going to have to "answer" for that when Jesus judges him after he dies. And, unless he does a LOT of penance in this life before that time, he's probably going to spend a LOT of time in Purgatory working off his temporal punishment. (Provided he dies in the state of Sanctifying Grace, of course.) :)
Whatdya think? :)
You're right that I've been thinking, but also feeling, and it doesn't frankly feel good.
Your example of the horrendous criminal in confession, though, is not a good one, nor necessarily on point with my point, nor necessarily theologically accurate. We don't know that such a sinner will "have to asnwer" for great quantities of sin more than others will have to answer for smaller quantities or less serious categories. Mercy is mercy, and is a quality of an infinite God. By definition, mercy is always larger than the state or act or person it encompasses and embraces. (That's why it's called mercy. ;)) It is not parceled out in some quantitative way by a God who is focused on limits.
Yes, I get your point about the residual temporal punishment due to sin, and certainly that is on point theologically. But that isn't quite what I was talking about. Life-review or not, we will indeed in some form, in this life and/or in purgatory, fulfill any temporal effects of our sins, small or large, early or late in life, and confessed or not. So I do not see temporal punishment as included in the torturous review of one's life to which I refer. (I haven't heard any suggestion that an end-of-life review will also include a display of remaining temporal punishment.)
Second, no theologian who has asserted (and again, I can't yet verify how orthodox such theology is) that there is an end-of-life reivew, duplicating visions of sins we have already confessed & possibly liberally repented of, has said anything about a visual display of temporal punishment. And that wouldn't even make all that much sense, because we probably know even less, can predict even less, what form (and length) our individiaul temporal punishment(s) will consist of. Because perhaps we will do a heck of a lot before our deaths to address this.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful or blasphemous, but really: what good is confession if one is only sort of forgiven, and the real 'gotcha' (the accounting) is at the end of life, despite what and how one has confessed, and how one has made reparation? It sounds bizarre and uncharacteristically mean-spirited, to me. Particularly because at that point you are left only with helpless regret. Does this compute with a merciful God?
I would buy the proposition that it's only our unconfessed and unrepentant acts that are displayed shamefully before our faces at death, although even that is a little out of character for my reading. But that's not what was claimed on EWTN radio or TV, as I described the segments.
I would like the source(s) for this supposedly extremely unpleasant view of end-of-life. The theological support for such statements, in Catholic theology, not in terror theology.