Do I have kids I do not know in Heaven?


#1

Apparently a high percentage of babies are miscarried before the mother knows she is pregnant. While I do not think this happened with me, technically would a mom meet kids in Heaven she never knew she had? And while I have one sibling, will the early miscarriage my mom had also be my sibling in Heaven? Is there any difference up there between my known sibling who is living out a long life so far…and the baby who was just a few weeks at miscarriage?


#2

I regret to say my wife used birth control pill before we got married while we committed the sin of fornication. Birth control pills have an abortifacient effect, so there is a good chance we have a conceived pre natal child that died. I too wonder about these things. Imagine all the woman using ABC and how many pre Natals are killed. The numbers are astronomical. God have mercy on us.


#3

OP, this is not something to worry about. We know little about what heaven will be like, but it is not a place of fear or embarrassment.


#4

Look at it this way: if you do have any children or siblings in Heaven, you’ll have another person praying for you!:grinning:


#5

Birth control pills can act in that way.
Natural miscarriages, that the mother isn’t even aware of, also happen all the time. Its a mystery…but yes there are countless souls we who walk the earth aren’t even aware ever existed.


#6

We don’t know the fate of those who die without baptism. We trust the mercy of God.


#7

Since life begins at conception, each conception is a baby. A human life. If they never make it past that point, they are still a baby, a human life. Potentially with God’s mercy they are in heaven. The real question is, as it is with all of us, will mom be in heaven at the end of life?


#8

Being that a child has a soul at conception (that I am aware of so far), I would assume they are considered in the afterlife. Since they are not Baptized, I do not have an answer for you. However, I do believe that God’s mercy is beyond comprehension. We don’t know what relations/family relations will be like in Heaven, but all we can do is trust in God’s authority, mercy, justness, and omnipotence. Peace be with you.


#9

Don’t assume that your dead children who were not baptized are in Heaven. My understanding is that the Church does not know the fate of unbaptized infants who die. A common theory among Catholics is that these souls go to limbo.


#10

Limbo is not church teaching.

If you have a day, read through this beautiful document, prepared by the International Theological Commission.

THE HOPE OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS WHO DIE WITHOUT BEING BAPTISED

God has not bound Himself by the sacraments He gives us.


#12

I hope so, because my wife had a miscarriage. But we don’t know for sure, but pray for God Mercy for these children


#14

While many aspects of Limbo have yet to be formally defined, the following is definitive teaching:

“The souls of those who die in mortal sin or with original sin only…immediately descend into Hell, yet to be punished with different punishments”.
—Pope Gregory X, Second Council of Lyons, 1274

“…the souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straightaway to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains”.
—Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Laetentur Caeli, 6 July 1439

“The Roman Church teaches… that the souls of those who depart in mortal sin or with only original sin descend immediately to hell, nevertheless to be punished with different punishments and in disparate locations…”
—Pope John XXII, Nequaquam Sine Dolore, 1321


#15

We are free to believe in limbo, it has not been forbidden.

My belief for my child who died without baptism is that he/she is in a place of peace but he/she does not have the beatific vision.


#16

THE HOPE OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS WHO DIE WITHOUT BEING BAPTISED

82. b) God does not demand the impossible of us. [Cf. AUGUSTINE, De natura et gratia 43, 50 (PL 44, 271).] Furthermore, God’s power is not restricted to the sacraments: ‘Deus virtutem suam non alligavit sacramentis quin possit sine sacramentis effectum sacramentorum conferre’ (God did not bind His power to the sacraments, so as to be unable to bestow the sacramental effect without conferring the sacrament). [Thomas AQUINAS, Summa Theologiae III, 64, 7; cf. III, 64, 3; III, 66, 6; III, 68, 2.] God can therefore give the grace of Baptism without the sacrament being conferred, and this fact should particularly be recalled when the conferring of Baptism would be impossible. The need for the sacrament is not absolute. What is absolute is humanity’s need for the Ursakrament which is Christ himself. All salvation comes from him and therefore, in some way, through the Church.

Read the document, instead of picking and choosing quotes out of context and applying them to infants.


#17

I hope so, because my wife had a miscarriage. But we don’t know for sure, but pray for God Mercy for these children


#18

:heart: I cannot imagine that we could possibly love our children even a fraction of how much God loves them. There is sooooooo much hope within God’s mercy! :heart:


#19

No one should claim that those who die in original sin achieve beatitude. But God can cleanse the souls at issue in this thread in ways other than Baptism so that they do not in fact die in original sin (making those quotes irrelevant). For example, in the Summa, St. Thomas says the following to counter the objection that since Baptism cannot reach within the womb, the sin of Adam which does reach there is more powerful than the salvation of Christ:

St. Thomas:

Children while in the mother’s womb have not yet come forth into the world to live among other men. Consequently they cannot be subject to the action of man, so as to receive the sacrament, at the hands of man, unto salvation. They can, however, be subject to the action of God, in Whose sight they live, so as, by a kind of privilege, to receive the grace of sanctification; as was the case with those who were sanctified in the womb.

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/4068.htm#article11


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