Do you respect the Jewish Faith?


#1

I was recently told off by some fundy that the Jewish religion is a crime against Christianity, because they don’t accept Jesus as their lord and savior. I told him that I have a GREAT respect fo tthe Jewish religion because the Jewish Religion is the roots for Chirstianity, and that they were Gods choosen people. I respect them MORE than some Protestant denomination. So my question is, do you Respect the Jewish Religion?


#2

Of course I do. As JP2 has said, they are our elder brothers and sisters.

Too many fundies have a lot of religion and not much developed theology. I certainly do no look to them for leadership in theological development. There is much we can learn from them; fervor, love of the Lord… but a consistent, seemless theological perspective is not one of them. :tsktsk:


#3

'Course I do! The only faith that I respect more than Judaism is Catholicism! :thumbsup:


#4

Of course, I do!! As a Christian, by definition I’m half Jewish.

If you get my point?


#5

[quote=RomanRyan1088] do you Respect the Jewish Religion?
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Well if I didn’t I would have a great many problems explaining it to St. Anne, St. Zachary, and St. Joseph. :stuck_out_tongue:


#6

We are to love and respect the Jewish people. The love of Jesus is to be seen in us.

Greg


#7

Don’t forget that Jesus was a Jew.


#8

[quote=RomanRyan1088]I was recently told off by some fundy that the Jewish religion is a crime against Christianity, because they don’t accept Jesus as their lord and savior. I told him that I have a GREAT respect fo tthe Jewish religion because the Jewish Religion is the roots for Chirstianity, and that they were Gods choosen people. I respect them MORE than some Protestant denomination. So my question is, do you Respect the Jewish Religion?
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We do respect the Jewish religion, since it is in a sense, Christianity’s religious “parent”, and we do recognize this fact. After all, we inherited our Old Testament books from them.

Gerry


#9

I have the utmost respect for the Jewish religion.

My mother taught me this first as she had been a nanny for a Jewish family…and I once met her “Jewish Mother.”

Occasionally I’ve run into or worked with Jewish people, and have found our discussions to be absolutely delightful. I would like to learn more about the religion as Judaism is our background. Any Christian that denies the importance of Judaism needs to buck up on the NT post haste!

Just consider all the passages in Jesus’ life which reference Jewish tradition and law. How can one truely understand Jesus without understanding the OT and the law?

With that said, I’m realizing that I need to buck up on our history lest I become a hypocrite! :stuck_out_tongue:


#10

An excellent resource for information on the beauty of our Elder Brothers in the family of man is Scott Hahn’s tape series “Salvation History”. He does a great job of walking through the beauty of the Old Testiment how it foreshadows the New so wonderfully.

God’s teaching through the generations is absolutely amazing and the stories of the Old Testament prove to us that God, who is unchanging and unchangable could NEVER foresake his Firstborn, even if they have erred. I don’t mean to suggest that every person born Jewish is assured salvation, any more than I could believe the “once saved, always saved” drivel. It’s not scriptural.

But look at what Christ has told us of the Prodigal Son. The Jewish people are that prodigal son, we’re simply still waiting for them to return to the family and ask the Fathers forgiveness as they acknowlege what he has done for them and for all humanity.

Yes, I love my family, even that silly older sibling who left home because he to proud and self reliant to follow dad’s difficult teachings. And I pray that all of humanity will one day come together according to God’s infinite plan.

CARose


#11

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

839 "Those who have not yet received the Gospel are related to the People of God in various ways."
The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People, “the first to hear the Word of God.” The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God’s revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews “belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ”, “for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.”

597 The historical complexity of Jesus’ trial is apparent in the Gospel accounts. The personal sin of the participants (Judas, the Sanhedrin, Pilate) is known to God alone. Hence we cannot lay responsibility for the trial on the Jews in Jerusalem as a whole, despite the outcry of a manipulated crowd and the global reproaches contained in the apostles’ calls to conversion after Pentecost. Jesus himself, in forgiving them on the cross, and Peter in following suit, both accept “the ignorance” of the Jews of Jerusalem and even of their leaders. Still less can we extend responsibility to other Jews of different times and places, based merely on the crowd’s cry: “His blood be on us and on our children!”, a formula for ratifying a judicial sentence. As the Church declared at the Second Vatican Council:

. . . [N]either all Jews indiscriminately at that time, nor Jews today, can be charged with the crimes committed during his Passion. . . [T]he Jews should not be spoken of as rejected or accursed as if this followed from holy Scripture.

674 The glorious Messiah’s coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by “all Israel”, for “a hardening has come upon part of Israel” in their “unbelief” toward Jesus. St. Peter says to the Jews of Jerusalem after Pentecost: “Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, whom heaven must receive until the time for establishing all that God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets from of old.” St. Paul echoes him: “For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean but life from the dead?” The “full inclusion” of the Jews in the Messiah’s salvation, in the wake of “the full number of the Gentiles”, will enable the People of God to achieve “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ”, in which “God may be all in all”.


#12

I wish that we were all a little bit more Jewish.

I have been told that Jews are taught that they should live as to be a blessing to the world around them, and they make a blessing over everything they encounter.

We can still learn from our brothers over the fence, as indeed they might hopefully learn something from us. :slight_smile:


#13

[quote=RomanRyan1088] my question is, do you Respect the Jewish Religion?
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Absolutely, they are our elder brothers in faith. Here is a site mentioning the Israelite origins of the Catholic Faith.


#14

[quote=RomanRyan1088]I was recently told off by some fundy that the Jewish religion is a crime against Christianity, because they don’t accept Jesus as their lord and savior.
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Just for fun, tell him that the founder of the Catholic Church was a devout Jew and He left a bunch of His Jewish companions in charge.


#15

For those interested in the topic:

“Salvation is From The Jews:The Role of Judaism in Salvation History from Abraham to the Second Coming” is an excellent new book on this subject:
salvationisfromthejews.com/articles.html

Some ministries started by Jewish converts to Catholicism:

Association of Hebrew Catholics
hebrewcatholic.org/index.html

Second Exodus
secondexodus.com/

Remnant of Israel
remnantofisrael.net/homepage.htm

Some Church documents on the subject:
*Nostra Aetate * ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V2NON.HTM

Dominus Iesus
ewtn.com/library/CURIA/CDFUNICI.HTM

Some articles of interest in response to the highly flawed recent document "Reflections on Mission and Covenant:

Jews Don’t Need Jesus? by Carl Olsen of Envoy Magazine:
envoymagazine.com/planetenvoy/083002.htm

O Jerusalem. Jerusalem, by Rosalind Moss
remnantofisrael.net/viewpoint.htm


#16

John 4:22-24 You people worship what you do not understand; we worship what we understand, because salvation is from the Jews. But the hour is coming, and is now here, when true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and truth; and indeed the Father seeks such people to worship him. God is Spirit, and those who worship him must worship in Spirit and truth.


#17

Yes, I definitely respect the Jewish faith because salvation is from the Jews and Jesus was a Jew. I have a brother-in-law who is Jewish and he is a kind, wonderful man who is sincerely interested in knowing about the Catholic faith. I pray that someday he will be a completed Jew.


#18

Absolutely


#19

[quote=RBushlow]Absolutely, they are our elder brothers in faith. Here is a site mentioning the Israelite origins of the Catholic Faith.
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secondexodus.com/html/sitedesign/israeliteheritage.htm


#20

I have an immense respect for the Jewish faith. After all, my faith is the fulfillment of it, not to mention our Messiah practiced Judaism. In reality, we are the real Jews and uncompleted Jews departed from their faith by not recognizing the Christ. I’ve even considered wearing the Star of David at times of persecution to show reverence.


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